African-Wikimedians April 2016

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Re: [African Wikimedians] African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 8, Issue 60
by Ingo Koll 28 Apr '16

28 Apr '16

Hi John, appreciate your initiative and welcome it! * As for languages- not so sure about UN-languages but some African languages should be in it - the 2 most relevant presently being Afrikaans and Kiswahili (statistically strong are also Malegache and Yoruba, lets see if they can participate?) If you add more languages the table gets difficult to handle, too wide. Reorganize it any way. I will add some for sure in swwiki. Cheers Kipala

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Re: [African Wikimedians] African World Heritage Day
by Ingo Koll 27 Apr '16

27 Apr '16

Presently on swwiki we have these 20 African Heritage Sites: Axum, Djemila, Gorée, Harar, Hifadhi ya Mlima Kilimanjaro, Hifadhi ya Serengeti, Karthago, Kasubi, Kilwa Kisiwani, Kurene, Lamu, Michoro ya Kondoa, Mji Mkongwe, Msumbiji (kisiwa), Ngorongoro, Piramidi za Giza, Selous, Timbuktu, Tunis, Victoria Falls You find them either under Jamii: Mahali pa Urithi wa Dunia katika Afrika or Jamii: Mahali pa Urithi wa Dunia katika Tanzania‎. Lokking forward to see the list grow! Cheers Ingo - kipala -----Original Message----- From: African-Wikimedians [mailto:african-wikimedians-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of african-wikimedians-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Mittwoch, 27. April 2016 13:38 To: african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 8, Issue 61 Send African-Wikimedians mailing list submissions to african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to african-wikimedians-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at african-wikimedians-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of African-Wikimedians digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: African World Heritage Day (Isla Haddow Flood) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:08:36 +0200 From: Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] African World Heritage Day Message-ID: <5BEA0576-729A-44CD-ABC2-81728C1B2214(a)wikiloveswomen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear Jon This is an exciting project!! I have been wanting to do something similar with the UNESCO heritage sites for so long - and am so glad you have initiated this plan. I will definitely be helping - And I think we can definitely help to get the word out in several countries across Africa!! Warmest Isla > On 26 Apr 2016, at 10:50 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote: > > > > Le 26/04/16 14:54, john cummings a écrit : >> Hi all > > hi John >> >> I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia events, I'm currently working at UNESCO. >> >> May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running a small online campaign for it. >> >> http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/ >> <http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/> >> I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it could be improved upon. > I think it is a great idea... > >> >> I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia and Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa through social media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. >> >> I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a project 'hit list' using Wikidata. >> >> https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148 >> <https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148> >> There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are blank or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate items so don't point to any articles or only one or two. > > Great table > The one thing I am missing here to make it appealing is... > 1) the name of the country where the site is located > 2) whether there is at least an image of the site, or not. Ideally... link to Commons category page IF it can be automated. > > My personal suggestions are > 1) that table should be transfered on a wiki page > 2) that it be divided in two tables actually... one about wikipedia > and the other about wikivoyage > 3) name of country added > 4) organise it per country perhaps ? > 5) for each article, we could add an indicator to show the general > state of it (without making it painful. Something fairly simple) > > Whilst meta would be a cool place to coordinate that... the real effect is ON the project itself (Wikipedia...) for a simple good reason... it is exciting to see the blue links and the red links. > On meta... everything is blue... whether it exists or does not exist. > > >> >> Some questions I'm currently thinking about: >> What languages should be included in the list? The languages I currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular languages but this is easy to change. > am not sure >> What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles where they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias. > well... I have a question. I see 137 items (and you say a few are > duplicates). Do those are the entirety of WH sites ? (= is there at > least one article in one language for each site; or are some sites > missing ? If some are missing... how many sites are missing ? ) If ALL > sites are listed here... make it a call for translation (and > improvement if people feel like it) If SOME sites are missing... make > it a call to make sure that ALL sites have at least one article in a > language > > Make it a 2-4 weeks effort. > > >> Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables? > both. Two tables >> Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find where articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a button where the gap is to just write or translate the article. > Not simple enough. Should be a wiki table with links to explain rules and translation tool etc. >> Does anyone want to work with me on this? > I love it. Not sure how much time I will have to dedicate to it though. On the 5th, unless it is cancelled, I will be travelling (somewhere in Marocco). But I can help a bit I am sure. > >> Where and how should we encourage people to take part > On social media, we have plenty of accounts to relay this (usergroups, wikilovesafrica, wikiafrica etc.). Project pages could be created on local wikipedias.... we can quite easily do it in French and English. But need to find local relays for other languages (if no local relay... use meta at least to have a global page and tables). Can get Wikimedia Foundation to do a blog (ask Ed). Then village pumps. Some mouvements can help relay as well, such as WikiFranca. > >> Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily. > Depends how much time you can dedicate to this. But the idea seems cool enough to do more than a tweet. >> All thoughts welcome > > Flo >> >> Thanks >> >> John >> > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians Isla Haddow-Flood Project Manager Username: Islahaddow

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Fwd: Re: African World Heritage Day
by Florence Devouard 27 Apr '16

27 Apr '16

Le 26/04/16 14:54, john cummings a écrit : > Hi all hi John > > I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia > events, I'm currently working at UNESCO. > > May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running > a small online campaign for it. > > http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/ > > I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it > could be improved upon. I think it is a great idea... > > I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia > and Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa > through social media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. > > I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic > Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are > available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a > project 'hit list' using Wikidata. > > https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148 > > There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are > blank or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate > items so don't point to any articles or only one or two. Great table The one thing I am missing here to make it appealing is... 1) the name of the country where the site is located 2) whether there is at least an image of the site, or not. Ideally... link to Commons category page IF it can be automated. My personal suggestions are 1) that table should be transfered on a wiki page 2) that it be divided in two tables actually... one about wikipedia and the other about wikivoyage 3) name of country added 4) organise it per country perhaps ? 5) for each article, we could add an indicator to show the general state of it (without making it painful. Something fairly simple) Whilst meta would be a cool place to coordinate that... the real effect is ON the project itself (Wikipedia...) for a simple good reason... it is exciting to see the blue links and the red links. On meta... everything is blue... whether it exists or does not exist. > > Some questions I'm currently thinking about: > > * What languages should be included in the list? The languages I > currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular > languages but this is easy to change. > am not sure > > * What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles > where they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias. > well... I have a question. I see 137 items (and you say a few are duplicates). Do those are the entirety of WH sites ? (= is there at least one article in one language for each site; or are some sites missing ? If some are missing... how many sites are missing ? ) If ALL sites are listed here... make it a call for translation (and improvement if people feel like it) If SOME sites are missing... make it a call to make sure that ALL sites have at least one article in a language Make it a 2-4 weeks effort. > * Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to > Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables? > both. Two tables > > * Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find > where articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a > button where the gap is to just write or translate the article. > Not simple enough. Should be a wiki table with links to explain rules and translation tool etc. > > * Does anyone want to work with me on this? > I love it. Not sure how much time I will have to dedicate to it though. On the 5th, unless it is cancelled, I will be travelling (somewhere in Marocco). But I can help a bit I am sure. > * Where and how should we encourage people to take part > On social media, we have plenty of accounts to relay this (usergroups, wikilovesafrica, wikiafrica etc.). Project pages could be created on local wikipedias.... we can quite easily do it in French and English. But need to find local relays for other languages (if no local relay... use meta at least to have a global page and tables). Can get Wikimedia Foundation to do a blog (ask Ed). Then village pumps. Some mouvements can help relay as well, such as WikiFranca. > * Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be > translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily. > Depends how much time you can dedicate to this. But the idea seems cool enough to do more than a tweet. > All thoughts welcome Flo > > Thanks > > John > --

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African World Heritage Day
by john cummings 26 Apr '16

26 Apr '16

Hi all I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia events, I'm currently working at UNESCO. May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running a small online campaign for it. http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/ I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it could be improved upon. I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia and Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa through social media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a project 'hit list' using Wikidata. https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148 There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are blank or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate items so don't point to any articles or only one or two. Some questions I'm currently thinking about: - What languages should be included in the list? The languages I currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular languages but this is easy to change. - What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles where they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias. - Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables? - Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find where articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a button where the gap is to just write or translate the article. - Does anyone want to work with me on this? - Where and how should we encourage people to take part - Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily. All thoughts welcome Thanks John

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Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Outage for planned maintenance: No editing for two 30-minute periods next week
by Nkansah Rexford 16 Apr '16

16 Apr '16

FYI. If you can't edit during the times specified below, then you know why ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder" <ssnyder(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Apr 15, 2016 18:33 Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Outage for planned maintenance: No editing for two 30-minute periods next week To: <WikimediaAnnounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, < wikitech-ambassadors(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, < ambassador-announce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Cc: This is a reminder about next week's major data center migration: There will be NO EDITING for about 30 minutes on both Tuesday, 19 April, beginning at 14:00 UTC <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160419T14> and Thursday, 21 April, beginning at 14:00 UTC <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160421T14>. This will affect ALL of the wikis in all languages and all projects. You will be able to read the wikis and to log in, but you will not be able to edit. Read https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Server_switch_2016 for more information. Please share this information with editors and other contributors you know. Thank you. -- Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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Re: [African Wikimedians] wiki indaba
by Olaniyan Olushola 15 Apr '16

15 Apr '16

Dear All, WU NG is putting her wait behind the annual hosting and I think Ghana Team, should come up with their time plan asap so that we can move forward on this discussion. Thanks. Olaniyan Olushola Director, WUGN Treasurer, FOSSFA MD, Olbims Consulting Phone: +2348154876844 Email: olaniyanshola15(a)gmail.com Email: olaniyanshola(a)yahoo.com Email:treasurer@fossfa.net Wiki: User name :Olaniyan Olushola Facebook: Olaniyan Shola Twitter :Oluwanishola73 Original Message From: african-wikimedians-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:48 PM To: african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org Reply To: african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 8, Issue 57 Send African-Wikimedians mailing list submissions to african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to african-wikimedians-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at african-wikimedians-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of African-Wikimedians digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: My Thoughts on Wikiindaba (Isla Haddow Flood) (Ingo Koll) 2. Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded (Nkansah Rexford) 3. Re: Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded (Florence Devouard) 4. Re: Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded (Nkansah Rexford) 5. Re: Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded (Nkansah Rexford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 17:40:19 +0430 From: "Ingo Koll" <ikoll(a)gmx.de> To: <african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] My Thoughts on Wikiindaba (Isla Haddow Flood) Message-ID: <001e01d18e73$57ae02a0$070a07e0$@de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I agree. Annual or at least biannual should be the way. Initiative from Ghana very welcome and refreshing after months of wailing. Greetings from Swahili subcontinent Ingo - Kipala From: Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] My Thoughts on Wikiindaba Message-ID: <36B8552F-CC82-48F2-AE31-DB1B5647722A(a)wikiloveswomen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I agree with the others … 4 years is far too long to wait. I think that you can only have it every year or every second year, or not at all. Too much happens in a year for us to wait 4 years for something. I fully support holding Wiki Indaba this year, and well done Ghana!! > On 03 Apr 2016, at 5:21 PM, Kangah Donatien KOFFI <donatien.kanga(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) User Group support the idea of Indaba this year. So we agree with Ghana. > > Thank you Felix to start the discussion. > > 2016-04-03 12:50 GMT+00:00 Raphael Berchie <rberchie(a)gmail.com <mailto:rberchie@gmail.com>>: > Hi all I think I bet to differ with Rex on his four year period I personally think that will be quite a long time.I however wish to state that team Ghana is ready to host the next Indaba later this year if we have the support from other countries.I believe it is a clarion call because if Indaba is not hosted this year we may have to wait until 2018.I hope we will have the needed support from other teams in our bid to host it. > > Warmest regards > > May I share my thoughts too? > > If Wikimania is going to be held once every two years, is it not a better idea to host wiki indaba once every four years? > > In that case, there's more time to as you put it: > > but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference. > > Two and half years to measure impact, one and a half year for setting the event arrangement rolling. > > I do not know the full reasons behind why Wikimania is gonna be held biennial, but i believe it's for good reasons. > > So wiki indaba, a quadrennial event. That's my thoughts. > > And Ooh, I like the started page on meta too. Thanks for starting it > > On Apr 2, 2016 6:57 PM, "Felix Nartey" <flixtey(a)gmail.com <mailto:flixtey@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi all, > > I think having the next Indaba has proven to be an issue of concern, even though I share in this same concern I advice that we be circumspect in our decision or plans towards it. > > I am strictly of the view that per issues following the last indaba held, we host this event every other year as initially proposed by Wikimedia ZA after the conference. I think this will afford us ample time to measure our exploits or pull enough feedback before our next request for the conference. > > It will also allow us to align with recent restructuring of Wikimania that proposes that Wikimania be held every other year starting 2017, meaning communities or regional events in 2018 and 2020 in that order. I am not saying we can't defile the status quo, but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference. > > Following these prepositions I think it will be ideal to host Wikindaba this year (2016) as part of the initial plan to host it every other year, or wait till 2018 to perfectly align with the restructuring of Wikimania and regional events (i stand to be corrected). Lastly I think it will be in our own interest to have a body (committee) that confers with the entire community and show responsibility for Wikindaba. > > Here is a link to a proposal <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba> for a possible committee I have been working on - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba>. Kindly add your voice and thoughts on what is possible. > > Cheers, > > Felix > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians> > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians> > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians> > > > > > -- > Donatien Kangah, > Entrepreneur, Consultant-Formateur web > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians Isla Haddow-Flood Project Manager Username: Islahaddow

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Fwd: Re: Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded
by Florence Devouard 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

wikimedia-l is using 100 kb. I would suggest that size. The reasonning is that even with no footer image or embedded image, it occurs fairly frequently that messages are bumped only because we keep the context below our own message. I have no memory of messages rejected on wikimedia-l for size issues. so the diff between 80 and 100 kb might be just sufficient to avoid the messages being rejected because of "too much text" whilst filtering out the messages with images. Flo Le 05/04/16 15:48, Nkansah Rexford a écrit : > > As in, what size limit are other list using? > > On Apr 5, 2016 1:19 PM, seanmavley(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Which is? > > On Apr 5, 2016 11:53, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org > <mailto:anthere@anthere.org>> wrote: > > Le 05/04/16 13:43, Nkansah Rexford a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> Messages coming through the list of size more than 80kb will >> be discarded. >> >> Ways to keep messages less than the 80kb threshold is to >> include no footer images, or embed any form of images in the >> message. Any images you want to share, please include a link >> to them in the email instead. >> >> thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> African-Wikimedians mailing list >> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> <mailto:African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > > Would not it make sense to actually adopt a similar size limit > than the one used on most Wikimedia related mailing lists ? > > Florence > -- --

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Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded
by Nkansah Rexford 05 Apr '16

05 Apr '16

Hi, Messages coming through the list of size more than 80kb will be discarded. Ways to keep messages less than the 80kb threshold is to include no footer images, or embed any form of images in the message. Any images you want to share, please include a link to them in the email instead. thanks

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Re: [African Wikimedians] Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded
by Nkansah Rexford 05 Apr '16

05 Apr '16

As in, what size limit are other list using? On Apr 5, 2016 1:19 PM, seanmavley(a)gmail.com wrote: Which is? On Apr 5, 2016 11:53, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote: Le 05/04/16 13:43, Nkansah Rexford a écrit : Hi, Messages coming through the list of size more than 80kb will be discarded. Ways to keep messages less than the 80kb threshold is to include no footer images, or embed any form of images in the message. Any images you want to share, please include a link to them in the email instead. thanks _______________________________________________ African-Wikimedians mailing listAfrican-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians Would not it make sense to actually adopt a similar size limit than the one used on most Wikimedia related mailing lists ? Florence _______________________________________________ African-Wikimedians mailing list African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians

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Re: [African Wikimedians] My Thoughts on Wikiindaba (Isla Haddow Flood)
by Ingo Koll 04 Apr '16

04 Apr '16

I agree. Annual or at least biannual should be the way. Initiative from Ghana very welcome and refreshing after months of wailing. Greetings from Swahili subcontinent Ingo - Kipala From: Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <african-wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] My Thoughts on Wikiindaba Message-ID: <36B8552F-CC82-48F2-AE31-DB1B5647722A(a)wikiloveswomen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I agree with the others … 4 years is far too long to wait. I think that you can only have it every year or every second year, or not at all. Too much happens in a year for us to wait 4 years for something. I fully support holding Wiki Indaba this year, and well done Ghana!! > On 03 Apr 2016, at 5:21 PM, Kangah Donatien KOFFI <donatien.kanga(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) User Group support the idea of Indaba this year. So we agree with Ghana. > > Thank you Felix to start the discussion. > > 2016-04-03 12:50 GMT+00:00 Raphael Berchie <rberchie(a)gmail.com <mailto:rberchie@gmail.com>>: > Hi all I think I bet to differ with Rex on his four year period I personally think that will be quite a long time.I however wish to state that team Ghana is ready to host the next Indaba later this year if we have the support from other countries.I believe it is a clarion call because if Indaba is not hosted this year we may have to wait until 2018.I hope we will have the needed support from other teams in our bid to host it. > > Warmest regards > > May I share my thoughts too? > > If Wikimania is going to be held once every two years, is it not a better idea to host wiki indaba once every four years? > > In that case, there's more time to as you put it: > > but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference. > > Two and half years to measure impact, one and a half year for setting the event arrangement rolling. > > I do not know the full reasons behind why Wikimania is gonna be held biennial, but i believe it's for good reasons. > > So wiki indaba, a quadrennial event. That's my thoughts. > > And Ooh, I like the started page on meta too. Thanks for starting it > > On Apr 2, 2016 6:57 PM, "Felix Nartey" <flixtey(a)gmail.com <mailto:flixtey@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi all, > > I think having the next Indaba has proven to be an issue of concern, even though I share in this same concern I advice that we be circumspect in our decision or plans towards it. > > I am strictly of the view that per issues following the last indaba held, we host this event every other year as initially proposed by Wikimedia ZA after the conference. I think this will afford us ample time to measure our exploits or pull enough feedback before our next request for the conference. > > It will also allow us to align with recent restructuring of Wikimania that proposes that Wikimania be held every other year starting 2017, meaning communities or regional events in 2018 and 2020 in that order. I am not saying we can't defile the status quo, but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference. > > Following these prepositions I think it will be ideal to host Wikindaba this year (2016) as part of the initial plan to host it every other year, or wait till 2018 to perfectly align with the restructuring of Wikimania and regional events (i stand to be corrected). Lastly I think it will be in our own interest to have a body (committee) that confers with the entire community and show responsibility for Wikindaba. > > Here is a link to a proposal <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba> for a possible committee I have been working on - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba>. Kindly add your voice and thoughts on what is possible. > > Cheers, > > Felix > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians> > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians> > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <mailto:African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians> > > > > > -- > Donatien Kangah, > Entrepreneur, Consultant-Formateur web > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians Isla Haddow-Flood Project Manager Username: Islahaddow

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