Hi John,
appreciate your initiative and welcome it!
* As for languages- not so sure about UN-languages but some African languages should be in it - the 2 most relevant presently being Afrikaans and Kiswahili (statistically strong are also Malegache and Yoruba, lets see if they can participate?)
If you add more languages the table gets difficult to handle, too wide. Reorganize it any way.
I will add some for sure in swwiki.
Cheers Kipala
Presently on swwiki we have these 20 African Heritage Sites:
Axum, Djemila, Gorée, Harar, Hifadhi ya Mlima Kilimanjaro, Hifadhi ya Serengeti, Karthago, Kasubi, Kilwa Kisiwani, Kurene, Lamu, Michoro ya Kondoa, Mji Mkongwe, Msumbiji (kisiwa), Ngorongoro, Piramidi za Giza, Selous, Timbuktu, Tunis, Victoria Falls
You find them either under Jamii: Mahali pa Urithi wa Dunia katika Afrika or Jamii: Mahali pa Urithi wa Dunia katika Tanzania. Lokking forward to see the list grow!
Cheers Ingo - kipala
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From: Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
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Dear Jon
This is an exciting project!! I have been wanting to do something similar with the UNESCO heritage sites for so long - and am so glad you have initiated this plan. I will definitely be helping - And I think we can definitely help to get the word out in several countries across Africa!!
Warmest
Isla
> On 26 Apr 2016, at 10:50 PM, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Le 26/04/16 14:54, john cummings a écrit :
>> Hi all
>
> hi John
>>
>> I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia events, I'm currently working at UNESCO.
>>
>> May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running a small online campaign for it.
>>
>> http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/
>> <http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/>
>> I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it could be improved upon.
> I think it is a great idea...
>
>>
>> I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia and Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa through social media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage.
>>
>> I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a project 'hit list' using Wikidata.
>>
>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148
>> <https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148>
>> There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are blank or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate items so don't point to any articles or only one or two.
>
> Great table
> The one thing I am missing here to make it appealing is...
> 1) the name of the country where the site is located
> 2) whether there is at least an image of the site, or not. Ideally... link to Commons category page IF it can be automated.
>
> My personal suggestions are
> 1) that table should be transfered on a wiki page
> 2) that it be divided in two tables actually... one about wikipedia
> and the other about wikivoyage
> 3) name of country added
> 4) organise it per country perhaps ?
> 5) for each article, we could add an indicator to show the general
> state of it (without making it painful. Something fairly simple)
>
> Whilst meta would be a cool place to coordinate that... the real effect is ON the project itself (Wikipedia...) for a simple good reason... it is exciting to see the blue links and the red links.
> On meta... everything is blue... whether it exists or does not exist.
>
>
>>
>> Some questions I'm currently thinking about:
>> What languages should be included in the list? The languages I currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular languages but this is easy to change.
> am not sure
>> What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles where they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias.
> well... I have a question. I see 137 items (and you say a few are
> duplicates). Do those are the entirety of WH sites ? (= is there at
> least one article in one language for each site; or are some sites
> missing ? If some are missing... how many sites are missing ? ) If ALL
> sites are listed here... make it a call for translation (and
> improvement if people feel like it) If SOME sites are missing... make
> it a call to make sure that ALL sites have at least one article in a
> language
>
> Make it a 2-4 weeks effort.
>
>
>> Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables?
> both. Two tables
>> Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find where articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a button where the gap is to just write or translate the article.
> Not simple enough. Should be a wiki table with links to explain rules and translation tool etc.
>> Does anyone want to work with me on this?
> I love it. Not sure how much time I will have to dedicate to it though. On the 5th, unless it is cancelled, I will be travelling (somewhere in Marocco). But I can help a bit I am sure.
>
>> Where and how should we encourage people to take part
> On social media, we have plenty of accounts to relay this (usergroups, wikilovesafrica, wikiafrica etc.). Project pages could be created on local wikipedias.... we can quite easily do it in French and English. But need to find local relays for other languages (if no local relay... use meta at least to have a global page and tables). Can get Wikimedia Foundation to do a blog (ask Ed). Then village pumps. Some mouvements can help relay as well, such as WikiFranca.
>
>> Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily.
> Depends how much time you can dedicate to this. But the idea seems cool enough to do more than a tweet.
>> All thoughts welcome
>
> Flo
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John
>>
>
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Le 26/04/16 14:54, john cummings a écrit :
> Hi all
hi John
>
> I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia
> events, I'm currently working at UNESCO.
>
> May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running
> a small online campaign for it.
>
> http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/
>
> I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it
> could be improved upon.
I think it is a great idea...
>
> I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia
> and Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa
> through social media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage.
>
> I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic
> Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are
> available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a
> project 'hit list' using Wikidata.
>
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148
>
> There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are
> blank or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate
> items so don't point to any articles or only one or two.
Great table
The one thing I am missing here to make it appealing is...
1) the name of the country where the site is located
2) whether there is at least an image of the site, or not. Ideally...
link to Commons category page IF it can be automated.
My personal suggestions are
1) that table should be transfered on a wiki page
2) that it be divided in two tables actually... one about wikipedia and
the other about wikivoyage
3) name of country added
4) organise it per country perhaps ?
5) for each article, we could add an indicator to show the general state
of it (without making it painful. Something fairly simple)
Whilst meta would be a cool place to coordinate that... the real effect
is ON the project itself (Wikipedia...) for a simple good reason... it
is exciting to see the blue links and the red links.
On meta... everything is blue... whether it exists or does not exist.
>
> Some questions I'm currently thinking about:
>
> * What languages should be included in the list? The languages I
> currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular
> languages but this is easy to change.
>
am not sure
>
> * What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles
> where they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias.
>
well... I have a question. I see 137 items (and you say a few are
duplicates). Do those are the entirety of WH sites ? (= is there at
least one article in one language for each site; or are some sites
missing ? If some are missing... how many sites are missing ? )
If ALL sites are listed here... make it a call for translation (and
improvement if people feel like it)
If SOME sites are missing... make it a call to make sure that ALL sites
have at least one article in a language
Make it a 2-4 weeks effort.
> * Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to
> Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables?
>
both. Two tables
>
> * Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find
> where articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a
> button where the gap is to just write or translate the article.
>
Not simple enough. Should be a wiki table with links to explain rules
and translation tool etc.
>
> * Does anyone want to work with me on this?
>
I love it. Not sure how much time I will have to dedicate to it though.
On the 5th, unless it is cancelled, I will be travelling (somewhere in
Marocco). But I can help a bit I am sure.
> * Where and how should we encourage people to take part
>
On social media, we have plenty of accounts to relay this (usergroups,
wikilovesafrica, wikiafrica etc.). Project pages could be created on
local wikipedias.... we can quite easily do it in French and English.
But need to find local relays for other languages (if no local relay...
use meta at least to have a global page and tables). Can get Wikimedia
Foundation to do a blog (ask Ed). Then village pumps. Some mouvements
can help relay as well, such as WikiFranca.
> * Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be
> translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily.
>
Depends how much time you can dedicate to this. But the idea seems cool
enough to do more than a tweet.
> All thoughts welcome
Flo
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
--
Hi all
I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia
events, I'm currently working at UNESCO.
May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running a
small online campaign for it.
http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/
I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it could be
improved upon.
I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia and
Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa through social
media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage.
I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic
Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are
available in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a
project 'hit list' using Wikidata.
https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148
There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are blank
or with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate items so
don't point to any articles or only one or two.
Some questions I'm currently thinking about:
- What languages should be included in the list? The languages I
currently have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular languages but
this is easy to change.
- What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles where
they don't exist in smaller Wikipedias.
- Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to
Wikipedia, or should I split into two tables?
- Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find where
articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a button where
the gap is to just write or translate the article.
- Does anyone want to work with me on this?
- Where and how should we encourage people to take part
- Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be
translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily.
All thoughts welcome
Thanks
John
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WU NG is putting her wait behind the annual hosting and I think Ghana Team, should come up with their time plan asap so that we can move forward on this discussion.
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1. Re: My Thoughts on Wikiindaba (Isla Haddow Flood) (Ingo Koll)
2. Notice: 80kb+ sized emails immediately discarded (Nkansah Rexford)
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From: "Ingo Koll" <ikoll(a)gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] My Thoughts on Wikiindaba (Isla
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I agree. Annual or at least biannual should be the way. Initiative from Ghana very welcome and refreshing after months of wailing.
Greetings from Swahili subcontinent
Ingo - Kipala
From: Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
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Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] My Thoughts on Wikiindaba
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I agree with the others … 4 years is far too long to wait. I think that you can only have it every year or every second year, or not at all. Too much happens in a year for us to wait 4 years for something.
I fully support holding Wiki Indaba this year, and well done Ghana!!
> On 03 Apr 2016, at 5:21 PM, Kangah Donatien KOFFI <donatien.kanga(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) User Group support the idea of Indaba this year. So we agree with Ghana.
>
> Thank you Felix to start the discussion.
>
> 2016-04-03 12:50 GMT+00:00 Raphael Berchie <rberchie(a)gmail.com <mailto:rberchie@gmail.com>>:
> Hi all I think I bet to differ with Rex on his four year period I personally think that will be quite a long time.I however wish to state that team Ghana is ready to host the next Indaba later this year if we have the support from other countries.I believe it is a clarion call because if Indaba is not hosted this year we may have to wait until 2018.I hope we will have the needed support from other teams in our bid to host it.
>
> Warmest regards
>
> May I share my thoughts too?
>
> If Wikimania is going to be held once every two years, is it not a better idea to host wiki indaba once every four years?
>
> In that case, there's more time to as you put it:
>
> but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference.
>
> Two and half years to measure impact, one and a half year for setting the event arrangement rolling.
>
> I do not know the full reasons behind why Wikimania is gonna be held biennial, but i believe it's for good reasons.
>
> So wiki indaba, a quadrennial event. That's my thoughts.
>
> And Ooh, I like the started page on meta too. Thanks for starting it
>
> On Apr 2, 2016 6:57 PM, "Felix Nartey" <flixtey(a)gmail.com <mailto:flixtey@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think having the next Indaba has proven to be an issue of concern, even though I share in this same concern I advice that we be circumspect in our decision or plans towards it.
>
> I am strictly of the view that per issues following the last indaba held, we host this event every other year as initially proposed by Wikimedia ZA after the conference. I think this will afford us ample time to measure our exploits or pull enough feedback before our next request for the conference.
>
> It will also allow us to align with recent restructuring of Wikimania that proposes that Wikimania be held every other year starting 2017, meaning communities or regional events in 2018 and 2020 in that order. I am not saying we can't defile the status quo, but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference.
>
> Following these prepositions I think it will be ideal to host Wikindaba this year (2016) as part of the initial plan to host it every other year, or wait till 2018 to perfectly align with the restructuring of Wikimania and regional events (i stand to be corrected). Lastly I think it will be in our own interest to have a body (committee) that confers with the entire community and show responsibility for Wikindaba.
>
> Here is a link to a proposal <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba> for a possible committee I have been working on - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba>. Kindly add your voice and thoughts on what is possible.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Felix
>
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wikimedia-l is using 100 kb. I would suggest that size.
The reasonning is that even with no footer image or embedded image, it
occurs fairly frequently that messages are bumped only because we keep
the context below our own message. I have no memory of messages rejected
on wikimedia-l for size issues. so the diff between 80 and 100 kb might
be just sufficient to avoid the messages being rejected because of "too
much text" whilst filtering out the messages with images.
Flo
Le 05/04/16 15:48, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>
> As in, what size limit are other list using?
>
> On Apr 5, 2016 1:19 PM, seanmavley(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> Which is?
>
> On Apr 5, 2016 11:53, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org
> <mailto:anthere@anthere.org>> wrote:
>
> Le 05/04/16 13:43, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Messages coming through the list of size more than 80kb will
>> be discarded.
>>
>> Ways to keep messages less than the 80kb threshold is to
>> include no footer images, or embed any form of images in the
>> message. Any images you want to share, please include a link
>> to them in the email instead.
>>
>> thanks
>>
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> Would not it make sense to actually adopt a similar size limit
> than the one used on most Wikimedia related mailing lists ?
>
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Messages coming through the list of size more than 80kb will be discarded.
Ways to keep messages less than the 80kb threshold is to include no footer
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thanks
As in, what size limit are other list using?
On Apr 5, 2016 1:19 PM, seanmavley(a)gmail.com wrote:
Which is?
On Apr 5, 2016 11:53, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
Le 05/04/16 13:43, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
Hi,
Messages coming through the list of size more than 80kb will be discarded.
Ways to keep messages less than the 80kb threshold is to include no footer
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I agree. Annual or at least biannual should be the way. Initiative from Ghana very welcome and refreshing after months of wailing.
Greetings from Swahili subcontinent
Ingo - Kipala
From: Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians
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Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] My Thoughts on Wikiindaba
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I agree with the others … 4 years is far too long to wait. I think that you can only have it every year or every second year, or not at all. Too much happens in a year for us to wait 4 years for something.
I fully support holding Wiki Indaba this year, and well done Ghana!!
> On 03 Apr 2016, at 5:21 PM, Kangah Donatien KOFFI <donatien.kanga(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) User Group support the idea of Indaba this year. So we agree with Ghana.
>
> Thank you Felix to start the discussion.
>
> 2016-04-03 12:50 GMT+00:00 Raphael Berchie <rberchie(a)gmail.com <mailto:rberchie@gmail.com>>:
> Hi all I think I bet to differ with Rex on his four year period I personally think that will be quite a long time.I however wish to state that team Ghana is ready to host the next Indaba later this year if we have the support from other countries.I believe it is a clarion call because if Indaba is not hosted this year we may have to wait until 2018.I hope we will have the needed support from other teams in our bid to host it.
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> Warmest regards
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> May I share my thoughts too?
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> If Wikimania is going to be held once every two years, is it not a better idea to host wiki indaba once every four years?
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> In that case, there's more time to as you put it:
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> but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference.
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> Two and half years to measure impact, one and a half year for setting the event arrangement rolling.
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> I do not know the full reasons behind why Wikimania is gonna be held biennial, but i believe it's for good reasons.
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> So wiki indaba, a quadrennial event. That's my thoughts.
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> And Ooh, I like the started page on meta too. Thanks for starting it
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> On Apr 2, 2016 6:57 PM, "Felix Nartey" <flixtey(a)gmail.com <mailto:flixtey@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi all,
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> I think having the next Indaba has proven to be an issue of concern, even though I share in this same concern I advice that we be circumspect in our decision or plans towards it.
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> I am strictly of the view that per issues following the last indaba held, we host this event every other year as initially proposed by Wikimedia ZA after the conference. I think this will afford us ample time to measure our exploits or pull enough feedback before our next request for the conference.
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> It will also allow us to align with recent restructuring of Wikimania that proposes that Wikimania be held every other year starting 2017, meaning communities or regional events in 2018 and 2020 in that order. I am not saying we can't defile the status quo, but I think we can have a better case after we have shown our exploits and what we are capable off, based on our experience. It will also afford us time to measure impact and success of the conference.
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> Following these prepositions I think it will be ideal to host Wikindaba this year (2016) as part of the initial plan to host it every other year, or wait till 2018 to perfectly align with the restructuring of Wikimania and regional events (i stand to be corrected). Lastly I think it will be in our own interest to have a body (committee) that confers with the entire community and show responsibility for Wikindaba.
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> Here is a link to a proposal <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba> for a possible committee I have been working on - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Indaba>. Kindly add your voice and thoughts on what is possible.
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> Cheers,
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> Felix
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