I will like to ask your help in beginning proceedings to have the wiki
article of Dr. Thomas Mensah totally deleted from Wikipedia and done as
soon as possible.
This is because the page still comes up whenever you browse his name and it
has that copyright tag there but displays nothing whatsover of his
biography and achievements. Since Wikipedia is not displaying the bio of
his work and achievements then I will ask that it deletes the page
completely and his name off their servers as well because that tag
implicating copyright issues is in itself defamatory to his character as a
highly respected member of the global academic and scientific society.
If any one has an address to forward this request to then that will be
greatly appreciated, else I say we do what we can as soon as we possibly
can to see to the complete removal of Dr. Thomas Mensah from Wikipedia if
they do not want his article there, rather than keep his name there and
that of Rocky Dawuni under such defamatory circumstances.
I am open to whatever ideas anyone might have in seeing to the resolution
of the above because Wikipedia or some editors there said it was going to
take a week to resolve since the above page a were tagged for deletion on
March 6, 2015 and it's been almost half a month now and they have not been
completely removed: I speak as a concerned Ghanaian on this matter.
Thank you,
Oral Ofori
Journalist/Publicist/Social Media Specialist/+12027069881
www.about.me/OralOfori
On Mar 9, 2015 4:39 PM, "TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori" <oralofori(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Lol, no thats not what the message was shooting for, mistyped that there
> and thanks for efforts. Shirts about to get wet here :-)
> On Mar 9, 2015 4:26 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
>
>> Excuse me ?
>> So... you suggest that *I* do the clean-up of the article to remove the
>> copyvios that *YOU* guys added in it... and *THEN* hand it to you to
>> improve ?
>> Or do you suggest that *I* go around look for some editors to improve the
>> article ?
>>
>> This is not what is going to happen...
>> If YOU guys want this article to exist, wet your shirt ;)
>>
>> Ant
>>
>> Le 09/03/15 20:01, TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori a écrit :
>>
>> Ok Florence, let me know when that Rocky becomes a substantial
>> non-cooyvio so I delve into it and add a few touches to beef it up while I
>> cross my fingers for some hope about the Thomas Mensah one too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oral
>>
>> Journalist/Publicist/Social Media Specialist/+12027069881
>> www.about.me/OralOfori
>> On Mar 9, 2015 2:19 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Dawuni
>>>
>>> That's temporary. I will redelete it afterwards.
>>>
>>> Guys, if you want to recreate a new article using the non copyvio parts
>>> of this one, please do so in an intermediary space. Thanks
>>>
>>> Ant
>>>
>>> Le 09/03/15 09:45, rupert THURNER a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hmmm.. I d love to have the history. It is not my text
>>>
>>> Rupert
>>> On Mar 8, 2015 7:44 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I copy pasted the entire text in my email two days ago Rupert...
>>>> You just need to copy paste it anywhere you feel it is best (online or
>>>> not online).
>>>>
>>>> Ant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 06/03/15 20:16, rupert THURNER a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Sure, if you could restore it, at least in my or Rex personal
>>>> namespace...
>>>> On Mar 6, 2015 7:51 PM, "Florence Devouard" <anthere(a)anthere.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 06/03/15 19:41, Florence Devouard a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 06/03/15 19:09, rupert THURNER a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes please do send this list and try to improve them, and then tell
>>>>>>> me how pleasant this work was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contrary, for the rocky dawuni article I d be interested as well
>>>>>>> where the copyright infringement was. I do not like that without admin
>>>>>>> permission it is not possible to look this up...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also of interest in the conversation:
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noti…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise... with a quick study of what is going on about the deletion
>>>>> spree, it seems that...
>>>>> * in all articles, chunks are indeed copyvios. The chunks are smaller
>>>>> or bigger depending on each case.
>>>>> * in many cases, the article is blanked in its entirety, then deleted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like it is a bit overkill to me. I see not why at least a stub
>>>>> could be kept.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ant
>>>>>
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3. Re: [Wikimedia-GH] complete deletion of Dr. Thomas Mensah's
name from wikimedia (TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori)
I had a look to day at the template "Template:Copyviocore" (which presently fills the Mensah-page) and left the following on its talk page:
Horrible template, complicated and deterring
After a discussion on the African-Wikimedians mailing list I have a first look at this template. It looks outright horrible, terribly complicated. Myself being wikipedian for many years I have problems understanding what to do after seeing it.
People who write copy-paste entries and disregard copyrights need guidance. They are not hard-core criminals. They probably often are stubborn and will not take a first advice (guess that is how it was in the Thomas Mensah entry). So blanking the whole or parts is probably a good way of shocking them into rethinking.
The obvious advice is to rewrite the concerned article. This is hidden somewhere in the template but after reading it twice I am not sure what to do then. Of course you guys are terribly bright but I guess much of wikipedia is written by dumb guys like me. This template takes much of space and complicated advice how to handle a procedure but not how to guide interested people to change the thing.
So please dumb this lousy thing down that it looks less lawyerlike. If everybody is whining how the number of editors declines on wikipedia - well here is a pretty good example to explain the reasons.
NB: Else I find that everybody enjoying and using gibberish expressions like "copyvio" deserves a firing squad. Cheers from the African bush! Kipala (talk) 07:19, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Dear list,
I find this debate exceedingly tiring and meanwhile turning into a waste of time (It has been helpful for some clarifications). One very esteemed fellow wikipedian posted a copy-paste entry. Surely with good intentions but against basic rules. After the necessary reaction we get for weeks now a mountain of textlines on this forum instead of someone just rewriting that entry to get the copy-paste-stuff out of it.
I do not see that anyone is working against Africa, nobody is punishing authors, and the tag very clearly is not damaging to any topic, no matter if it appears on an entry about Jesus, Muhamad, Thomas Mensah or Arteriovenous fistula. Copy paste is a bad habit that potentially can damage Wikipedia.
So will please someone rewrite that article so we can move on to something meaningful?
Greetings from Uswahilini - Kipala - Ingo
1. Re: [Wikimedia-GH] complete deletion of Dr. Thomas Mensah's
name from wikimedia (TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori)
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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:25:11 -0400
From: "TheAfricanDream Oral.Ofori" <oralofori(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] [Wikimedia-GH] complete deletion of
Dr. Thomas Mensah's name from wikimedia
Well then something is definately wrong somewhere if Wikipedia is punishing the articles/authors and not realizing that their actions via those tags have a huge potential to hurt the image of the subjects of these articles, especially in cases involving actual persons :-(
Hi, I have followed this discussion for a while.
I understand that the major problem is the copy-paste habit of some editors.
There are texts which can be copied and just passed because they have no copyright. But still it is not a good idea. Because it easily loos like a puzzle where pieces do not fit and tends to result in lousy style.
There are more texts where the copyright problem arises.
This can easily be avoided by just rephrasing the text with own words, if we stick just to one source.
Please all do that and lets get out of this lamentation corner.
Nobody is being persecuted here, nobody fights against African topics.
Lets work on our editig quality, it is not difficult.
Otherwise do learn Swahili and edit on sw:Wikipedia. Then you only deal with kind admins who are extremely patient - and copy-paste is next to impossible!
Cheers, Kipala
...
>>> Otherwise... with a quick study of what is going on about the
>>> deletion spree, it seems that...
>>> * in all articles, chunks are indeed copyvios. The chunks are
>>> smaller or bigger depending on each case.
>>> * in many cases, the article is blanked in its entirety, then deleted.
>>>
>>> Looks like it is a bit overkill to me. I see not why at least a stub
>>> could be kept.
>>>
>>> Ant
Yeah @massly the admins are deleting all my articles.
@all
Even if the article has copyright violations in them, an admin's joy of
deleting articles instead of improving them is basically problematic for
me.
I'm sure after deleting potential articles, they go to bed feeling, 'Oh
yeah, I cleaned Wikipedia today. All articles that have slight copyright
violations, I cleared them all. What a good admin I am.'
Then the following morning, the admin wakes up and finds stats about
contributions from Africa and it goes like: "Oh dang! Africans dont
contribute to Wikipedia at all. I wonder what they do with their time. Even
this man, Patrick Awuah who's well known and the founder of Ashesi
University, and Rocky dawuni who's a rock star even is not on Wikipedia. No
way, Africans! You're not pulling your weight."
Then I look at the admin from above and say, 'sheesh, this is unfair!"
If admin's first priority is deleting potentially good articles, then I
wonder where the "assume good faith" begins and ends.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith#Good_faith_and_co…
I know there's another policy on Wikipedia hiding somewhere that conflicts
equally the link above.
Happy Independence day to all Ghanaians, and admins deleting my articles
relating to Ghana from wherever they are.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015, 08:53 masssly <masssly(a)ymail.com> wrote:
> @Rexford
>
> And I just noticed Rocky Dawuni has also now been deleted. What's
> happening...
>
> -Masssly
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
> Date:04/03/2015 20:12 (GMT+00:00)
> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <african-wikimedians@lists.
> wikimedia.org>
> Cc: Wikimedia-gh <Wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-GH] [African Wikimedians] Some IP deleting uploads
> and articles
>
> And those elephants, instead of spending time chasing the not so good
> articles and high level crappy images on Wikipedia, they rather go on easy
> prey and articles relating to celebs not well known, of course because
> persons like myself are toothless and won't have anything to do.
>
> Something I always envisioned happening as long as the whole of Africa has
> no Wikipedia admin to turn around decisions like these.
>
> You know, its hard to think Africanish, if you weren't born as one.
>
> Those elephants are interested in the unnecessaries and instead take fun
> in deleting articles with so much potential
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 20:08 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly... I believe this was one of the elephants we were trying to
>> tackle at Wiki indaba right?
>>
> On Mar 4, 2015 9:57 PM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
> How Wikipedia rolls? How does it? Deleting legitimate articles and images
>>> because someone at the other end dont know the true origin and considers
>>> every celeb image on Wikipedia to be copyright?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015, 19:55 bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Is that one of your policies too !!!
>>>>
>>>> I used to be in flames and be super furious but after I realized how we
>>>> roll I just chilled. So unfortunately this is how we roll don't worry just
>>>> chill and keep on editing, the machines will decide if your edits are
>>>> worthy to be part of sum of all human knowledge.
>>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Nkansah Rexford <
>>>> nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> There are many policies on Wikipedia, and I also joined with my own
>>>>> policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> One is, if a legitimate content I upload to Wikipedia is deleted by
>>>>> someone or something at the other end of the world, I dont and won't
>>>>> contest for its undeletion. Never!
>>>>>
>>>>> I received these images listed here that has been marked for deletion
>>>>> ( see close to bottom of page) https://commons.wikimedia.org/
>>>>> wiki/User_talk:Nkansahrexford#File:Peace_Hyde_Mara_Mentor.jpg
>>>>> explicitly from either the celeb herself or from her manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are nominated for deletion.
>>>>>
>>>>> An article about Ashesi University's found that has seen about 200,000
>>>>> views since it was started has been nominated for deletion on grounds that
>>>>> make no sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Patrick Awuah, Jr." on @Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>>> Patrick_Awuah%2C_Jr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Contributions from well meaning individuals go to fix the imbalance
>>>>> whatever of africa we all preach about, and IP addresses delete them
>>>>> without any substantive reasons. And no one cares. Feels to me machines do
>>>>> those deletions instead of humans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are machines taking over editing on Wikipedia? Or because of these
>>>>> weird activities, humans are no longer contributing their time, and rather
>>>>> bots and machines are taking over?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in flames here!
>>>>>
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Votre aide pour répondre au questionnaire est la bienvenue (-> Côté
d'Ivoire, Algérie, Tunisie etc.)
Florence
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Date : 3 mars 2015 18:57
Objet : [Semaine de la langue française et de la Francophonie] Infos &
valorisation du mois de la contribution francophone
À : Wikimedia Chapters cooperation francophone
<francophones(a)wikimedia.ch <mailto:francophones@wikimedia.ch>>
Bonjour,
1. La semaine de la langue française et de la francophonie aura lieu du
14 au 22 mars 2015 :
http://www.dismoidixmots.culture.fr/semainelanguefrancaise/
Dans ce cadre, avec Benoît Rochon, coordinateur de WikiFranca, nous
avons pensé *faire le bilan des actions du mois de la contribution
francophone.*
L'objectif est double :
* recenser et évaluer les actions qui ont eu lieu dans toute la
francophonie pour pouvoir les valoriser
* recenser les besoins de soutien des différents groupes
d'utilisateurs / chapitres / wikimédiens pour la prochaine édition
Nous vous proposons pour cela que chaque personne qui a organisé un
événement dans son pays ou sa ville*réponde au questionnaire suivant
avant le 10 mars*, qui couvre ces deux aspects. Ce questionnaire prend
entre 5 et 10 minutes :
*http://goo.gl/forms/fpdwGZoY9j
*
N'hésitez pas à relayer ce questionnaire !
Les informations recueillies grâce au questionnaire seront ensuite
*valorisées à travers un post de blog proposé sur le blog de la WMF
notamment.*
Pour l'édition 2015 du mois de la contribution francophone, nous pensons
qu'*il serait plus logique de caler cela sur le mois de mars, autour de
la semaine la francophonie.
*>>Qu'en pensez-vous ?*
*
2. Toujours dans le cadre de la semaine de la francophonie, un concours
est lancé en France comme chaque année: le concours Dis-moi dix mots.
Cette année, le mot "Wiki" fait partie des 10 mots sur lesquels écrire :
http://www.dismoidixmots.culture.fr/semainelanguefrancaise/agenda/le-jeu-co…
Si cela vous inspire, *on peut aussi co-rédiger un post de blog sur ce
que "wiki" veut dire dans nos différents pays et ainsi présenter les
différentes entités francophones du mouvement ?
*
Voici un pad avec une proposition de trame :
https://lite5.framapad.org/p/oJZi351ZID
>>Qu'en pensez-vous ?
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