Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

I'm not going to get into the minutia and details of how the code of conduct is or isn't good to work in your repo, that's a separate discussion that I won't participate in by choice right now. I am simply pointing out that your own points made a declaration about how working in the space you are in looks like. In the gerrit commit that started this thing, you, yourself, publicly wrote this: *"The Site Settings extension uses a bunch of WMF tools and services for its development, including hosting. If some random person sends me a patch for Site Settings by email, and I email them back and say "Your code sucks, you nitwit" (or worse), am I violating the Wikimedia Code of Conduct?"* https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/SiteSettings/+/4375… This statement, the question itself, and the fact you are asking whether this violates the CoC means, to me, and others who are unwilling to work in a hostile environment, that you're unsure whether this is acceptable at all. You might see this question as an innocent attempt to nitpick over the specific details of whether by regulation something needs to happen. I see it as a hint that you might **actually** think this is an acceptable thing to do. I don't know if you do. You might think it's not a bad response, but rather a funny one. You might think it's acceptable because the original code **was** stupid. I know people who think that, and that, for *their* spaces, is valid. But then I choose not to spend time in that space. That's valid too. Which is why when Amir said he won't get near your code, he wasn't making a personal attack. He was making a conclusion based on what you wrote about the way your space operates. That's not a personal attack no matter how much you try to shift the goal post and talk about red herrings. That's a consequence, and a reason of why the code of conduct was needed to begin with. You might accept this consequence as acceptable. That's your choice in your space. But don't throw that on others as if by making a conscious choice to avoid spaces that have a danger of being toxic, they're personally attacking you. Let's go back to the actual discussion at hand, instead. Moriel On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 11:05 AM Yaron Koren <yaron(a)wikiworks.com> wrote: