So to whom is this going to be helpful and how? That sounds like being implemented to me, but apparently that isnt going to happen.
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Venerability policy? That's a new one. Verifiability policy. (Spellcheck is not always a wiki-lawyer's best friend.)
Pine
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking generally, guidance can be helpful even if it's not a policy. English Wikipedia has similar ways of organizing information and how-to guides. Some guidance documents are categorized as essays, some as guidelines, and some as policies. It's worth noting that enforcement is, somewhat counter-intuitively, not tied directly to the "authority level"
of
a document. For example, the venerability policy is frequently violated
but
generally people are rarely blocked for violating it, while the
exceptions
to norms that are tolerated under "Ignore All Rules" have become thin as Wikipedia's complexity has grown and practices have become more detailed and standardized. (I believe that Aaron Halfaker has done some research
on
that last point.)
Pine
Pine
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Rogol Domedonfors <
domedonfors@gmail.com>
wrote:
If there's not going to be anything to implement, how do you see this as having an effect on anything? What will be done differently or better? Why should anyone be doing any work on it? How will we know whether or not it has been a success, and whther or not the time effort and effort was well-spent?
"Rogol"
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Keegan Peterzell < kpeterzell@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <
domedonfors@gmail.com>
wrote:
Is the *Technical Collaboration Guidance* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_Guidance
still
actively under development?
Yes, there are internal stakeholder discussions still underway.
There seems to have been no discussion of any substance since January. Is there an intention to bring the
discussion
to
a close
Eventually the plan is to remove the draft tag, yes.
and to implement the guidance?
As guidance, there is nothing to "implement" as you say. As has been discussed on the talk page, these are not rules to be placed into
effect.
This is a guidance manual from the TC team. The guidance is available
for
teams to check if they'd like a written resource for the type of work
that
Community Liaisons generally do.
Further questions are welcome on the talk page, where discussions can
be
properly captured on-wiki.
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