"Yes, we lack efficient and effective ways of cross-listing conversations"
This is something we would love to address in our organization. Between
email, chat, multiple wiki discussion/Flow pages, and issue trackers (like
Phabricator/GitHub/GitLab), it's difficult to ensure everyone is included
in the conversation and to prevent repetition across multiple conversations.
One approach we use in our wikis at NASA is to tag articles as "Related to"
other articles. Then we can have a query on each page showing everything
that is tagged as "Related to {{PAGENAME}}". We use Semantic MediaWiki for
this, but I'm sure many other approaches could provide similar
functionality. If Flow (or even core MW) could allow for a section of a
page to be tagged as "Related to" other articles, you could somewhat
automate linking. This would probably help people discover related
conversations.
Another idea I'll throw out there is something we have submitted to a few
grant proposals, called Wiki Conversations [1]. Basically, a tool allowing
users to "CC" a wiki, so the content is then "wikified" and linked to
related articles. So conversations like this one could be linked to the
Flow and Echo discussion pages.
Daren
[1]
https://youtu.be/VacHe2f1hWA
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, we lack efficient and effective ways of
cross-listing conversations,
which might be another use case for which the Collaboration team might
engineer some solutions, possibly involving Echo and/or Flow. (:
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Rachel diCerbo <rdicerb(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
I wonder if the most effective place to have and
follow conversations
about
a product are on that product's page, rather
than Lila's Talk page or
WM-L.
The main page to talk about Echo notifications overall is here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo_(Notifications)
A particular problem is that that page is Flowized and I know that many
users prefer original Talk pages - but the RfC page allows for Talk page
format. It's here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Cross-wiki_notific…
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015, Pine W
<wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The discussion about Flothat I referened is currently happening on
Lila's
> talk page on Meta. Would you like to join
the conversation there? The
> discussion there might get more staff attention than Wikimedia-l. (I
hear
a
number of staff avoid Wikimedia-l because they
find the tone to be
hostile
and/or because the volume is more than they can
handle.)
You really think the staff that dont follow wikimedia-l are going to
follow
lila's talk page?
--bawolff
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