On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Thanks Arlo. I added a few.
But I'm not sure that it answers my original question: Will this be done every time a page happens to edited in VE and saved or will it be done globally on all pages in all wikis as some kind of a maintenance job?
Oh, sorry if I wasn’t clear.
The normalizations we’re adding will be applied to new content added through VE. A global cleanup of all the past unnecessary nowiki’ing is still necessary and desired.
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2015-06-20 19:45 GMT+03:00 Arlo Breault <abreault@wikimedia.org (mailto:abreault@wikimedia.org)>:
On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
There may be more - I'm still looking for these.
If you find any, please propose them on the Parsoid’s normalization talk page [0]. I’ve added the ones you’ve mentioned so far.
We’ve documented [1] what’s currently been implemented.
A few months back, Subbu solicited feedback [2] on what style norms should be enforced. We’ve since added a `scrubWikitext` parameter to Parsoid’s API that clients (like VE) can benefit from.
Cleaning up our past transgressions is great. Helping to prevent their continued existence is even better.
I was reading the discussion on gradually enabling VE for new accounts [3] and Kww writes there,
"Further, we still have issues with stray nowiki tags being scattered across articles. Until those are addressed, the notion that VE doesn't cause extra work for experienced editors is simply a sign that the metrics used to analyze effort were wrong. Jdforrester, can you explain how a study that was intended to measure whether VE caused extra work failed to note that even with the current limited use, it corrupts articles at this kind of volume [4]? Why would we want to encourage such a thing?”
Makes me sad.
[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Parsoid/Normalizations [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Normalizations [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2015-April/081453.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Gradual... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&offset=&...
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