On Monday, August 11, 2014 at 5:18 AM, svetlana wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, at 21:42, Chris Keating wrote:
I think the most helpful thing would be to not attempt to start wars, and
particularly not on behalf of anyone or against individuals. We are all on
the same side here: trying to make the projects (and the project
interfaces, as a part of that) better. That includes, for instance, trying
out a new way of viewing photographs.
I assume of course and as always that you send your message from a place of
also wanting the projects to be better and more usable. But it is hard to
see how anything you suggest above gets us there.
I agree with everything Phoebe's said.
"That includes, for instance, trying out a new way of viewing photographs."
do you guys "try out" on the whole userbase?
that's not how people "try" things
it's not what actually happened wither
maybe say something more like "hi people, in the background we are writing a lot of
wonderful code which will be used for refreshing the entire website in the long
term"
"we're especially looking at how we fail to match project mission - we're
people, we are making mistakes!"
"we're adding edit interface to media viewer ASAP and let everything else burn
until we do that"
etc etc
and don't shy out, you ARE empowering the community already ;)
including jquery into list of what gadgets can use is already a huge plus, but i barely
know any gadgets which use it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelper uses parsoidObj from i
think parsoid itself
this potential was never exposed to developers, not to mention end users
this software is very scriptable and flexible
Sorry, are you referring to the potential of that gadget, or Parsoid?
Parsoid exposes a public API at,
http://parsoid-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org/
which is documented at,
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/API
and the output is specified at,
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/MediaWiki_DOM_spec
A list of known users is available at,
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Users
and more are actively encouraged.
If there’re any misconceptions, let’s clear them up.
the world picture is ugly and awkward and the superprotected scandal is special as 1
staff didnt even know about this decision. need better documenting. delays > mistakes.
what i get from working with people is that one needs to make small steps, carefully, and
take notes; otherwise big steps may be taken in wrong direction
and document things, go screaming and kicking, I did it! for every step made
this way people know what is going on
please keep working on documenting what on earth you're doing exactly, in public
it should be the base of the entire team
are you doing planning in your head? design? ;) definitely not
put it onto a public wiki, collaborate out in the open
svetlana
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