Erik Moeller wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com wrote:
So for me, the question is not how can we apply pretty serif fonts to headers, the question is what can we do short term and long term to make that happen.
It would be good if we could focus the conversation as much on concrete bugs and issues as possible.
You mean something like this?
Derk-Jan Hartman wrote:
Short term:
- Accept that the current solution is not working
- Rely on Operating System to make the best choice it can, because we
cannot do better (return to status quo)
- Accept that maybe it might just not be possible right now
- Gather statistics on cleartype font rendering (just like we look at
tofu).
- See if there are ways to make the target group to which the font
change is applied narrower/stricter/better defined.
Longer term:
- Work with font communities to build true usable, enjoyable Free
fonts with global reach.
- Work with web/browser development communities to make web fonts
more efficient
- Work with OS vendors to make sure they are committed to fixing
problems in/with fonts, delivering open fonts
I agree with all of this. Both Erik's and Derk-Jan's posts are very good, but I get the feeling that people are talking past each other in this thread sometimes.
As Quim notes, there's an upcoming MediaWiki release. We should merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/124475 into master and figure out what to do with the other font-family adjustments for the short-term.
There seems to be demonstrable consensus for merging Gerrit change 124475 into master, though Steven refuses to remove his -2, which he should never have been able to set. If you (Erik) are truly interested in focusing the conversation on concrete bugs and issues, that's where I would start.
MZMcBride