On Apr 9, 2014 5:43 PM, "James Forrester" jforrester@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 9 April 2014 12:49, Brandon Harris bharris@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:45 PM, James Forrester jforrester@wikimedia.org wrote:
Proposal:
- Make the default a nice proper size for the modern Web; I suggest
360px but could be argued up.
- Remove all the other sizes from wgThumbLimits
- Remove the user preferences for thumbnail size
Simple.
Well. Maybe not so simple. We also have to think about the thumbnails included in
galleries.
Galleries with 360px thumbnails won't be very browsable.
They're just as browsable as galleries with 220px thumbnails were for
most
of our users 5 years ago. It didn't stop us spewing galleries forth then.
(Actually, with the new style layouts, much more so. There's a distinct discussion worth having about changing the default rendering of galleries to those for better UX.)
Also search results.I presume you mean Special:NewImages, galleries in Category pags, and the like? Fair, though I think it's reasonable to shoot for consistency.
This setting applies to none of these. This is for people doing [[file:foo.png|thumb]]
(I think upping the gallery default size would be nice, but that's a different config variable)
As for killing the pref, while if users arent too atached to it, killing a parser-cache varrying preference would be nice.
Of course this thread isnt supposed to be about if its a good idea to increase the size, so far everyone is agreement on that front. The issue is whether doing so would kill swift due to a large increase in object count (or some other performance concern(?)) as has appearantly been suggested.
Im not sure it would actually increase the object count that much, if the new size chosen was a multiple of the old (as was suggested on wikipedia) since that size will already probably be rendered for retina display. Also we added the whole retina display srcset feature without the world exploding, and i think that was orders of magnitude bigger change than this would be. Ill admit im not actually familar with what the performance issues are, and may have just said something totally irrelavent.
--bawolff