I'm in Shanghai. I can access zhwiki on both mobile device and pc and I am not redirected to https by default.
A user in Dalian reported on zhwiki he can access by https, which I think it's a just exception.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Ryu Cheol rcheol@gmail.com wrote:
Now I am reading
"Some users live where HTTPS is not an easy option due to explicit blocking by government. At the request of these communities, we made an explicit exclusion for users from those particular countries. Simply, users from China and Iran will not be required to use HTTPS to log in, nor to view any Wikimedia project site."
I think something wrong with this.
In China, I experienced to be redirected to https without seeing Main_Page. So I had no opportunity to login. I suppose casual users in China would have no chance to see the front page and will not know http is available. They will think Wikipedia is totally blocked by the great firewall.
I feel we need to fix something for users in China regarding https.
Cheol
- 24., 오후 1:35, Ryu Cheol rcheol@gmail.com 작성:
Dear Jeremy, you are right. I am back to Korea. Sorry, I cannot give you exact
configuration I had in China.
At this moment, I can say that I was convinced that on mobile devices I
can access to Wikipedia, but I can't on desktop computers. No matter what is behind, http or https.
Cheol
- 24., 오후 12:25, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com 작성:
On Sep 23, 2013 11:09 PM, "Ryu Cheol" rcheol@gmail.com wrote:
On iPad, I could not check it is http or https. You means that on
mobile
devices such as iPad, it does not redirect to https. I feel a bit, it is not consistent.
If it's not consistent then that's a probably bug to be fixed. Can you provide more details and try to eliminate any variables? e.g. maybe one device had a forceHTTPS cookie set or one was logged in and one was
not. Or
they were using different uplinks.
In the region which https is not allowed, could we keep the http as the
default protocol for example China?
I thought I totally lost the access. I ask we could change directing
behavior according to the region the access comes from?
This has been discussed many times (including many times on this list).
You
can catch up with the meta summary[0] (or links at the bottom of that
page)
or the archives of this list.
[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS#Excluded_Countries
Ryan wrote:
Can you email me privately and let me know what your IP address is? We actually do have something in place to not redirect logged-in users in
some
regions (such as China). Maybe the geoip database we are using is
incorrect
for your area.
I got the impression that the trip to China was finished; we'll see
what he
says.
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