On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
On the first point, right now, we're approaching categories and similar page metadata from the point of view of the editing surface as an entrypoint. This makes sense if you simply try to map all aspects of markup (which is inherently positional, even where it carries no positional value like categories) into an editing interface. VE is at least providing a "Page Settings" dialog that gets rid of the positional context for categories, etc.
However, from a user's standpoint, it still doesn't make a ton of sense to do it that way. If I just want to add a category, I shouldn't have to invoke an editing surface at all. Similarly, if I want to turn a page into a redirect, I shouldn't have to edit the page at all. As most of you know, some gadgets like HotCat already operate on a similar principle.
Why should VE be doing this if you're not entering the editor. HotCat (and the future extension based on it) can handle categories just fine. The VE team should focus on fixing its current issues before attempting to introduce new features.
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