On 21/08/13 12:22, Erik Moeller wrote:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM, George William Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
The change must be delayed until people geographically / nationally denied HTTPS can log in again.
Tim's working on a patch that should make this possible: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80166/
The plan of record right now is to not make the switch til we have that merged & tested. We may still be able to make the launch window tomorrow - RobLa will make the final call on that.
I don't think it is a great idea to enable $wgSecureLogin with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/47089/ unreverted and unfixed. And my own patches probably need more testing.
In general, though, I'd prefer for WMF to move away from what could be characterized as appeasement and towards actively resisting censorship and monitoring. So I'd argue in favor of a deadline for this approach, and alignment of resources and alliances to take active measures against censorship and monitoring.
That's not really what I signed up for. I would like WMF to play an increasing role in the education of the people of the PRC, and I think actively resisting censorship is opposed to that goal. We will be blocked, and thus lose almost all of our PRC traffic.
I support circumvention of China's censorship, and more fundamentally, I want China to be more open and democratic. However, I think that measures to achieve these goals should be done at arm's length from the Foundation.
-- Tim Starling