So I've been trying to implement the suggestions and I think I'm one step
away from seeing results. I've got Wikibase and all its dependancies set
up, I've got mobile frontend installed (but commented out for the moment).
I can't figure out how to get some Wikidata style data on to my local
installation to see how it looks on a mobile though!
If somebody could point me in the right direction, I'll do that and will
set up a local tunnel to share the results (if any!).
That should give me some information and I should be able to draft a rough
proposal with the project needs!
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Pragun: It's still a work in progress.
I personally think it would be great to have different mobile skins as
all our projects have different needs and don't necessarily need
to/should look the same or behave the same.
I'd happily work closely to you (help with code review etc) to support
such a move.
If you were to take this approach you'd create an extension that
depends on MobileFrontend and extends SkinMobile / SkinMobileBase
class overriding certain functions. In a LocalSettings.php you'd be
able to configure it as the default mobile skin on your wiki.
You can check out the current state of the code/my mind here:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/58997/
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Pragun Bhutani <pragun06(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I'll go ahead and request that Wikilabs
account then. If I get stuck
somewhere, I'll revert back to you.
Also Jon, could you tell me a little more about your work on the skin? Is
it possible for me to view the code?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrobson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been doing some work on refactoring the mobile skin.
>
> In theory when I'm done doing this (I need some help code reviewing) you
> would be able to write your own mobile skin with its own modules and own
> scripts.... simply by extending some classes in MobileFrontend
extension.
>
> Does this sound appealing at all?
> On 17 Apr 2013 08:02, "Brion Vibber" <brion(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > What you probably want to do is *integrate with* MobileFrontend, but
keep
> > your code within WikiBase extension and
friends.
> >
> > There's provisions now for specifying desktop or mobile targets
> separately
> > in ResourceLoader, which will let you load either the same or
different
> CSS
> > and JS for mobile views. You could also format your special pages
> > differently, but I recommend doing the differences in CSS and JS if
you
> > can, to keep things clean.
> >
> > But you could also detect that mobile view is in use and change the
> > formatting of a Special: page directly, for instance.
> >
> > From what I remember, the base HTML of the data editing forms is
> relatively
> > straightforward, but might not fit well on small screens, so
definitely
> > consider the user-interface needs of a
~320x480px screen when planning
> what
> > to do. :)
> >
> > -- brion
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Denny Vrandečić <
> > denny.vrandecic(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:
> >
> > > 2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <pragun06(a)gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on
> > > #wikimedia-mobile,
> > > > I've got a few things to add:
> > > >
> > > > - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being
> > accessed
> > > > through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and
such
> of
> > > the
> > > > box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like
Quim
> > Gil
> > > > suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with
> > trying
> > > > to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.
> > > >
> > > > If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be
excellent
> but
> > if
> > > > it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would
make
> > > more
> > > > sense to make a completely new extension for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I think that sounds like a good plan.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the
moment, I
> > > think
> > > > that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with
respect
> to
> > > the
> > > > GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the
> > project
> > > > after GSoC ends.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope
the
> > > project so that it can be finished
in GSoC time - but obviously,
> further
> > > work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated.
> > >
> > > So, let's consider what should be working:
> > > * create a mobile site for Wikidata
> > > * displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile
> > devices
> > > * retains different language versions
> > > * Bonus: easy to edit
> > >
> > > First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e.
> > whether
> > > it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with
setting
> > it
> > > up on labs.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Denny
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <qgil(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I would hope
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > It would also be extremely good to look
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would assume
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of
> your
> > > > > knowledge to the questions at
> > > > >
> > > > > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
> > > > >
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<
> > > >
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
> > > > >
> > > > > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any
answer
> > > more
> > > > > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this
project to
people
> > in
> > > > > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a
> > candidate
> > > > like
> > > > > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and
where
> > the
> > > > > complexity/simplicity relies.
> > > > >
> > > > > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not
encourage
> > > GSOC
> > > > /
> > > > > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around
> August.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance
> > > somewhere
> > > > > with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know
> more
> > > > about
> > > > > the gap this project should fill?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Quim Gil
> > > > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > > > >
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
> > > >
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