On 04/03/2013 11:11 AM, Ori Livneh wrote:
required. What you are proposing is considerably more
ambitious in
scope (Web Platform doesn't integrate with bug management and SCM),
but some napkin cost analysis could be very useful.
Yes, but I didn't want to go too far with implementation details and
budgeting before having some community feedback first (which we are
getting now).
Then again, the proposal has enough level of detail to get a rough budget.
Before committing to the full scope of the project, it
would be good
to comb through this and identify one or two things that could be
implemented easily and that would be expected to demonstrate a
measurable impact on the number of new contributors. We should not
wait for a project like this to be finished in toto before examining
the correctness of the initial hypotheses.
Agreed.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Wikitech_contributors#Fi…
is supposed to be completed in 3 months, and even there you have some
easier tasks that could be implemented pretty fast, namely forms &
templates for
* User profiles.
* Projects.
* Tasks.
* Events.
Notifications still require more definition and expertise to decide what
should be done now. Is Echo ripe for this? Is it worth to use this
experiment to prototype Flow there? Or should we fallback to a system
like
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TranslationNotifications ...?
And then we have Nodes, which is a novel concept and probably requires
more complex implementation work in therms of software development and
design.
About design and usability... Yes, doing something amazing takes a long
time (look at ourselves). Then again, this is parallel work. This
project is not contesting Vector, neither the current look & feel. This
proposal is first and foremost about the plumbing behind.
If you feel that more design resources / budget should be allocated on a
nicer UI then I can also ask for it, but in a context of limited
resources the priorities would be clear.
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Quim Gil
Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil