On 8 June 2012 16:18, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 June 2012 10:12, Ryan Lane rlane32@gmail.com wrote:
The problem was never IPv6. The problem was always about the unspoken expectation that everyone else would just drop everything else they have going on to patch up all the stuff that got broken as a result of this sudden change. I get that this was an exciting step for the engineers
who
got it done, and I tip my hat to all of them for pulling it off; from
that
sense it's been a successful implementation. I also get that at least
30%
of WMF users on hundreds of projects -that's roughly how many use one or more gadgets, scripts or tools that didn't work after this switch - have now had their "editing experience" negatively affected, and that almost
all
of it could have been avoided with a month or two of notice so that
patches
could be written and resources could be put into place in advance. One
has
to hope this was a knowledge gap and that Engineering did not actually
know
the extent to which it would impact the projects and the end-users.
Are the breakages on the site really that massive? We've been getting little to no reports of breakages.
From what I understand, most of these breakages are in tools and scripts developed and operated by volunteer developers, not WMF developers. The big one is Huggle, which on enwp is used by a large majority of admins and recent changes patrollers. There are additional notes on the enwp village pump (technical) that appear to be related, although I do not have the expertise to assess this. I have been told that there are parallel issues on some of the other large projects, although I don't have direct knowledge.
I only see one report of IPv6 problems at the village pump: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vpt#MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-foote... That was a template which was fixed within a few hours.
Note that the API has had some downtime recently, which has been wreaking havoc on various scripts and tools. So many of the reports at the village pump are unrelated to IPv6.
Pete / the wub