I don't think that Risker is wrong, it is true, that ipv6 was enabled
on production almost with no warning and since it wasn't available on
any test site before, neither on wmflabs it was almost impossible for
developers to fix all issues in tools related to this. For example one
of tools that broke was huggle, people are complaining now at us
(huggle devs) that it doesn't work, and my reply is: We knew that, we
know that, but no one gave us a chance to prepare. I have no working
ipv6 wiki I could test it on, neither there is any on wmflabs. So when
it was enabled on production we couldn't be prepared for this. Huggle
is not the only tool which broke, there are many others and devs never
had a chance to adapt to ipv6 without any test wiki to try it on.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2012/6/8 Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com>om>:
The issues I point out with the IPv6 transition
are social issues. Nobody
expects Engineering to go all touchy-feely. But we do expect to be treated
with respect. Next time, give us a month or two of warning. And please
don't insult people by pretending this was a spur of the moment decision:
the more I read, the more clear it is that for months IPv6 Day was the
target for bringing this online.
Hi,
First of all, let me clear up any possible misunderstanding: I am not
affiliated with the Engineering team other than being a programmer
myself and having an insight on how cool, but non-core ideas (such as
IPv6 for the WMF) are pushed in such an environment. I also agree that
the WMF has more than once ignored the communities.
But from the same discussions that you read, my impression is that,
while it was clear since 11/6/6 for everybody that the best moment for
deployment was 12/6/6, the actual testing and bugfixing began very
close to the due date. This is why I said the decision was taken in
the last minute. I also don't agree with your implication that there
is much mess to be picked-up after the IPv6 rollup, nor with your
suggested solution - the checkuser distribution list is much too
limited for the implications of this deployment.
Ryan has sent his email while I was composing mine so I might be
repeating some of the stuff he said, but he made a decent
justification of why this was a last-minute decision.
All the best to you too,
Strainu
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