I agree with Petr, I see no reason to put them on different wikis. Namespaces are cheap.
-Chad On Jun 7, 2012 11:20 AM, "Petr Bena" benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated by many people, these needs to have documentation so that they can be overtaken by someone else in case the original person who launched bot, doesn't have a time to maintain it.
Why should it be for foundation only projects?
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Krinkle krinklemail@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Ryan Lane wrote:
I'm not sure if it makes sense to have the Labs/OpenStack/Nova
management
interface on this same "new wikitech" wiki though. This means that all
the
community projects running inside labs will/might use this same wiki
to document
their internal structure - which can (and should be) a lot of projects
that are
not Wikimedia engineering projects.
Documentation for labs as being a Wikimedia project makes sense, but
the actual
projects inside and management maybe don't fit well inside the new
wikitech. I
like that of the labsconsole.
Do you mean they aren't *staff* engineering projects? Labs is meant to be a stepping stone. For most projects, the idea is that people will implement something in Labs and it'll get moved into production. The documentation for that project will then be the documentation for Labs and production.
One of the biggest reasons I wanted to merge the wikis is because I feel that volunteer operations engineers should be documenting their infrastructure changes in the same place as staff operations engineers.
- Ryan
No, that's not what I meant.
Contributions (from whomever) to for example the production cluster
puppets (through gerrit), that may have an RFC on wikitechwiki ahead of time sounds awesome. Stuff can be proposed by whomever, and then implemented by whomever. Then tested in labs and merged/pushed to production.
I was refering to projects that will not be foundation engineering
projects, or at least do not intend to be that.
*cut 2 paragraphs*
...when trying to come up with examples, it turns out that those
examples (Tool-Labs: early extension development, bot hosting, slow-query tools, ..) probably wouldn't put their documentation on either wikitech or labsconsole, so nevermind.
-- Krinkle
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