On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
This is one of the reasons I've been hoping we'd move to a more pre-commit review model. Especially for big refactorings and cleanups that have limited immediate value, we tend to get a lot of breakages a not a lot of interest in fully reviewing them (eg actually checking all the code paths to make sure they really work).
Here's the thinking that lead to where we are: the cutover to Git is the point at which we want to fully move to precommit. It seems like an enormous pain-in-the-butt to move to full precommit with our current toolset (SVN + CodeReview tool).
However, we're much closer than we've ever been to having Git, and it may be worth dealing with some short-term pain.
To a certain degree, I'd actually consider it desirable to have a permanent 'slush' to the extent that destabilizing work should *always* be talked out a bit and tested before it lands on trunk/head/master.
Yup, agree 100%.
Let's all just pretend this has always been the status quo starting right now. I think we've already established that there used to be more liberal reversion, and that when that went away, so too went our ability to stay on top of the review queue.
If we're not ready to go fully git the instant we branch 1.19,
Given that the branch just happened, and we're not ready yet, that's the case. Chad can give you more of an update, but my understanding is: * A (hopefully) final test migration of core is slated for this week. Chad believes he's got all of the blocking problems sorted out. * Extensions migration isn't going so smoothly. The same tools that work splendidly with core seem to crash with the very small subset of extensions that he's tried it out with. Could be a minor problem that's easy to fix, or could be gawd awful. TBD * We'd like a two-week window of warning/testing/playing around before making the cutover.
All told, the current plan is beginning of March for core, middle of March for extensions. More details here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion
...and in the email that I hear Chad is writing :-)
we may wish to consider applying more formal review to things proposed to go into trunk on SVN. This may be simpler than attempting to synchronize SVN and git via post-SVN-pre-git reviews...
I'd be perfectly fine with either outcome (more formal pre-commit review, or picking our SVN->Git cutover point based on what's reviewed).
Rob