Op 29 jan 2011, om 17:29 heeft MZMcBride het volgende geschreven:
Platonides wrote:
MZMcBride wrote:
There was previous discussion about this, but more discussion is needed, apparently. Is site-wide CSS the best way to do this? Would a toggle on the file description page make more sense? User preference?
It's easy to add such "preference" as a gadget.
That requires installing the Gadgets extension, copying over the appropriate pages, and then explaining to users how to activate the functionality. That seems a bit less than ideal.
I read over the previous discussion about this (on mediawiki-cvs, I think) and I still don't understand the exact issue with everyone seeing a checkered background. There was an arbitrary distinction created between editors and readers and a theory was put forward that readers could never see a checkered background, but that it was quite helpful to editors. I think readers would like to know as much as editors whether a background is white or transparent, and a checkered background is the standard way to do this.
MZMcBride
For a while I had pretty much the exact same thoughts like "What is the downside for readers ? What does it matter ?"
But after reading that thread[1] I'm starting to understand and kinda agree with it.
Compare the following two pages (when logged out):
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A-gunner.gif * http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A-gunner.svg
Although as me, being a graphic designer, I'd say: "Ah, SVG that's awesome. Vector is obviously better and I see that it's transparent as well."
But I can imagine an end-user thinking. Hm... Why is this .svg whatever thing distorted ? It's got these squares all over it. I'll use the other one.
Now in this case there there's a choise (I linked to both versions), but that's not always the case. It may be hard to imagine as being a technologically advanced/ experienced user, but I believe these are real scenarios. People are really direct and without doubt when they see (too) (much) weird stuff, they click the [x] and go away, left disappointed.
So as far as I'm concerned this is still a dilemma. Readers want to read articles and look at cool pictures, icons in articles and accross the interface.
There shouldn't be a checkered background when an transparent PNG icon is placed on the top right of an article (say like the Featured article star), there shouldn't be when it's a logo in an infobox.
Should there be when it's in a <gallery>, on a File:-page or in the Filehistory ?
-- Krinkle
[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/30603