On 8/4/10 3:14 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkarneilk@wikimedia.org wrote:
On a more serious note: when it comes to Flash on Wikimedia projects, the WMF board has said no.
Has it? Where? I think everyone is grudgingly okay for Flash as a fallback for browsers that don't support standards-based markup . . . but not if it's the only way to get the functionality.
I looked for some sort of meeting minutes before posting, but couldn't find them. Maybe I don't know where or how to look.
Anyway, this is what I heard from Danese. A few weeks ago Tim Starling noted that the PLupload library* looked interesting, which falls back to Flash quite a bit for older browsers. So I tried to figure out if we could use it (or its approach to things) and started asking around. Danese and I had a short informal discussion, but it seemed pretty unambiguous to me, but I could be mistaken.
Danese is on vacation until August 8th, but maybe others have heard this?
[1] PLUpload's model of separating presentation and backend upload transport is nice, definitely cleaner than ours. But we were doing something similar anyway. The difference is that we're trying to make HTML4 really good and then swapping in HTML5/modern browser trickery when we can, whereas they started with Flash/Silverlight/Gears/HTML5 and their HTML4 version isn't that good.