On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Once we have proper ODF screening we could possibly allow just those in PDF, but then again, we could allow them directly (which I think would be preferable).
Meh. I think ODF-in-PDF would be preferable. The penetration of Adobe reader is really high, which means that almost anybody can view the document. Are there any downsides of ODF embedded in PDF compared to pure ODF except file size?
The resulting file is not part of the ISO covered part of PDF. Many PDF viewers have no clue how to extract the embedded file. On the site the distinct revision history of the files is lost (i.e. someone could revise the ODF or the PPT and not the other, and you couldn't see that on the site). And, of course size... ODF documents can potentially be very large. Despite those arguments against it, always having the document source in an editable form is, admittedly, very attractive. I don't think that it's worth having a big debate over files which could only be permitted in a fairly sparing manner. In any case, document validation is a pre-req in any case.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote: [snip]
The fact is, I have an ODT file. This will not change. The question is, can Wikimedia Commons handle this or do I have to start a separate project?
This has already veered off-topic for this list…
We operate Wikis here today, our projects are collaborative, and wiki is our only robust collaborative technology. While I do not want to tell you "no" as there are a lot of useful reasons to accept OpenOffice uploads, there are also many reasons why we're fairly restrictive about non-wikitext formatted-text uploads. There is a desire to accommodate real needs— but it needs to be balanced against our desire to maximize accessibility and the ability to collaborate.
If wikitext has layout shortcomings which are impacting you, then you should disclose them so that people can think about how to resolve them. But if your position is "I just want to do it my way", then perhaps you should be starting a separate project.