On 8/16/06, Sabine Cretella sabine_cretella@yahoo.it wrote:
Andrew Dunbar schrieb:
On 8/14/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/14/06, Sabine Cretella sabine_cretella@yahoo.it wrote:
How I work on the nap.wikipedia? Well there are two things to it: I first write in OOo or Word, then I subsitute all '' with the numeric code with search and replace and I avoid to create wiki-links, because I am simply very annoyed (better I remain with nice words...) to copy and paste it here and there. Or I write the article on the wiki and then substitute the parts needed - both ways require loads of time more.
This kind of thing interests me greatly. I just did some Google searches for Neapolitan OR napolitano with alphabet OR spelling OR orthography OR apostrophe OR quote. I couldn't find anything. So instead I'll ask here in which kinds of cases this occurs. Does it represent a certain sound or omitted letters?
Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail)
This happens quite frequently with d''a d''o
which is a combination of the preposition + the article
A combination of which preposition and which aritcle? I'm guessing the preposition cognate to "de" in other romance languages and either of the masculine or feminine articles which appear to be identical to their counterparts in Portuguese.
If so, why does this contraction use '' ? Doe all Neapolitan contractions use this or do some use a simple ' ? What is the grammatical underpinning of this orthography?
People on the nap wikipedia, to avoid the mess or stop editing or use all sorts of strange combinations that shows correct but is wrong - some put a space inbetween, others use ยดยด `` - well these are accents and even if they "show up" like this in a research they do not give good results. I cannot even handle the proof-reading of that stuff alone, because there is too much already in there. And we cannot do it with the bot since it would anyway not find all of them and also substitute occurances where these signs might be needed.
We had that discussion more than once.
http://nap.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napule is an article where I corrected it halfway through - it is on my todo list - but there are thousands of things to care about and so these often remain there, because I am waiting for the right person who takes over the job (this could be done by many ... it is just caring about some simple rules) - we are just two or three people working regularly on nap - so at a certain stage you have to choose what to do and what must wait.
The use of wrong characters is of course an error, but there are for now other things to be created and cleaned up. For now we have to live with it :-(
If '' functions as a single character there may be a Unicode character which is the correct one and thus two English apostrophes is wrong.
If '' is two adjacent apostrophes, this seems like a very good argument for using the actual correct apostrophe character - the curly one. So it's not on the keyboard but it should be in Edittools. You'd just have to teach contributors to differentiate between apostrohes as part of Neapolitan text and apostrophes as part of wiki markup.
Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail)
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