Brion Vibber a écrit:
Anthere wrote:
I do not like anymore than you the idea of altering history. But I feel that if someone can sue us due to lies being on Wikipedia, it is worth doing it. It is not only a legal perspective. It is only showing readers that we have a certain ethic, and that if someone says the worse crap on them, we will try to restore the truth rather than propagating it.
That's already been accomplished by removing the comment from the page.
Well, we'll see. The important thing now is just to realise that no comment can be really deleted, only pushed into history (where everyone can read it, but not easily).
For the record, I do not appreciate at all the term "whim" applied to my request, nor the qualification of morally repugnant, Brion. I understand you do not like doing this, but it is a very very very poor feedback for the pain and time I spent with Izwalito case.
I would not consider it your whim, but rather the whim of some company which would prefer to make threats against third parties about a negative comment on an internet forum, which has already been relegated to the depths of the edit history of a discussion page.
It was not in history before I blanked everything...
What exactly is at issue here? For what would we throw away our independence and editorial integrity? Even if it were easy to do, there would need to be some very serious problem at hand to even consider it.
I have to assume there's something *very serious* at issue, but I'm not at all sure what it is. Maybe it's just that it's very late and I'm not a native speaker, but I can't imagine what in that paragraph would be considered actionable under any circumstances; mostly it's a terminology dispute between editors, and also someone apparently isn't too impressed by this company's web design.
So what? What am I missing?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Hmmm. Well, we'll see if they come back in the future. Never mind from now.
The comments are not negative, they are false. Negative is fine. False is not really fine.
The background : the comments were made by Izwalito. Izwalito is now banned from wikipedia, for many reasons, and the last one is making legal threats of various sorts. We managed to get rid of him by proving that the information he provided was not enough to make a full official and legal legal request. 24 hours later, we have a request exactly fullfilling all the details we have discussed in length as being mandatory.
I may be paranoid, or a visionnaire. I am quite certain the firm is making the request in good faith... but I think they have been suggested to do so by someone...
I just wanted to avoid it being possibly a testcase. I do not believe in chance here. But well. Never mind for now. Let it rest like this. We'll see if there is further reaction.
Ant