Hoi, What is the point of your advise? What the language committee allows is one dimensional. Dialects are not granted a permit for labels. This only makes sense once we have dictionary functionality. Thanks, GerardM
On 13 June 2016 at 18:30, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Hi Biyanto,
I think discussing this in English will be hard, as it seems English doesn't split out the different concepts...
Going by the French & German, Q315 (Langage \ Sprache) is the abstract concept of language (the ability to convey concepts) and Q34770 (Langue \ Einzelsprachen) is "a language". So perhaps it would be more correct to say that, for example, English is an instance of Q34770.
*However*, Q4536530 seems to also cover the abstract Langage concept, and Q315 is marked as a subclass of Q4536530. It feels like we have three items covering two concepts - but all three have articles in German so maybe there's still another concept? Argh.
I think we need a (German-speaking?) linguist to sort this one out. Do we have one on the list? :-)
Andrew.
On 13 June 2016 at 14:06, Biyanto Rebin biyanto.rebin@wikimedia.or.id wrote:
Thank you Gerard, I usually leave it empty for the language that I couldn't find.
Another question, Wikidata have two different item for close term, language in Q315 and language (in linguistics) in Q34770. It's important thing because when I randomly check some of Wikidata using Q315 or Q34770. Any idea how to solve this problem?
2016-06-13 14:14 GMT+07:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, The language committee agreed that recognised languages of the iso 639-3 that indicate single languages may be used without asking on Wikidata.
All
the rest is not covered and consequently needs permission. A code like
no
for Norwegian is not accepted for instance (indicating both nn and nb). Thanks, GerardM
On 13 June 2016 at 09:04, Biyanto Rebin biyanto.rebin@wikimedia.or.id wrote:
What do you mean with permission? Is it regarding with Wikimedia
language
code? I usually left the ISO 693-3 code if I couldn't find it.
Best,
2016-06-11 0:53 GMT+07:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, When a language cannot be matched to an ISO-639-3 code, it is
necessary
to ask for permission from the Language Committee first. Thanks, GerardM
On 10 June 2016 at 07:34, Biyanto Rebin <
biyanto.rebin@wikimedia.or.id>
wrote:
I use the code that is made by Statistics Indonesia, it's in PDF format. Unfortunately, Indonesian government's language body, likely
doesn't
have their own code. Some of language in Indonesia still doesn't
have any
ISO 639-3.
Best,
2016-06-10 0:36 GMT+07:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
:
> > Hoi, > Hear hear !! > > For your information all languages with an ISO-639-3 code may be > enabled on Wikidata. In time it will prove important for any and all > languages to have many labels in their language. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 9 June 2016 at 18:53, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk > wrote: >> >> On 9 June 2016 at 05:42, Biyanto Rebin >> biyanto.rebin@wikimedia.or.id wrote: >> >> > PS: I'm making WikiProjects Languages in Indonesia, anyone who
want
>> > to join >> > please let me know :) >> >> This is great news, and deserving of its own thread. Subject
changed!
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