Three cheers for these scripts, Magnus!
Scott
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
OK, this thread seems appropriate, so I just fixed up
one of my scripts,
it lets you
*drag'n'drop references between statements
*drag'n'drop URL references from Wikipedia (sidebar preview) onto
statements
*drag'n'drop Wikipedia links as new statements (asks for a property to use)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/dragref.js
Maybe it helps, a little.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 6:16 PM Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
The Visual editor has a whole UI team behind it,
who've been working on
it for years. Yes, citations are only a small part of it, but there is
nothing equivalent in WMF or German chapter for Wikidata, AFAIK. The
Wikidata UI is improved constantly, but I don't think there is anyone, let
alone a whole team, developing massive new UI features.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:
These are great, important suggestions. But like
with the library
science resources, it seems like Wikidata is again trying to re-invent an
existing wheel. Why are the existing tools in Wikipedia not being migrated
and/or pathway'd into Wikidata? The stripping of Wikipedia citations to
push it to Wikidata often / always (?) denudes the information of what is a
very rigorous requirement on Wiki.
I love the Citoid option, or whatever has been deployed for the Wiki
Markup editor when you put an ISBN number, OCLC number, or NYTimes URL into
the lookups there. There is no interchangeability with Wikidata though?
#WikiCite :-)
Agree on the {{citation needed}} button, Finn! ha!
- Erika
*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>*
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Magnus Manske <
magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
While the proposal of all statements requiring
citation is obviously
overshooting, I believe we all agree that more/better citations improve
Wikidata.
One component here would be a social one, namely that it first becomes
good practice, then the default, to cite statements.
For that, improved technology and new approaches are required.
Suggestions include:
* Open a blank reference box when adding a statement in the default
editor, thus subtly prompting a reference
* Show a "smart field" for reference adding, e.g. just paste a URL, and
it registers it's an URL, suggests a title from the page at the URL, adds
access date, suggests other data that can be inferred from the URL or the
linked page, shows likely other fields (e.g. "author" or such) for easy
fill-in
* Automatically add references for statements via external IDs. I have
a bot that does that to some degree, but it could use productizing
* Tools to "migrate" Wikipedia references to the actual sources.
(Again, I have some, but...)
* "Reference mode", to quickly add references to statements. (I have a
drag'n'drop script, but that breaks on every Wikidata UI update)
* A list of items/statements that are in "priority need" for
referencing. For example, death dates of the recently deceased should be
simple, while they are still in the news.
* Dedicated drives to complete a "set" (e.g. all women chemists), that
is, have all statements references in those items
* Special watchlist for new statements without reference, especially on
otherwise "completely referenced" items
Magnus
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:56 PM Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> *blanket, not blanked...
>
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