Hoi,
It does not quality anything. It is plain wrong.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 30 April 2015 at 15:06, Joe Filceolaire <filceolaire(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Exactly. The "official name " property
always has the name in the
original script. But we can and should have the transliteration in a
qualifier.
Joe
On 30 Apr 2015 06:13, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hoi,
> We transliterate every name from one script to the other.
> Transliteration the official name is exactly the one you should not
> transliterate.. What is left after transliteration is not official.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 29 April 2015 at 18:54, Thomas Douillard <
> thomas.douillard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's always possible to transliterate the official name
>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1448>property. Of course
>> this should be done by a gadget, or we may have to find a special treatment
>> for the ''name'' properties.
>>
>> 2015-04-28 23:06 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <filceolaire(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>
>>> I agree up to a point. Transliteration is not appropriate for labels
>>> for all items. There are however a few categories of items for which
>>> transliterated labels are appropriate. For example :
>>> * English labels for villages and towns
>>> * English labels for people
>>> *English labels for bands and albums
>>> I'm sure there are others that could use this too.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> On 27 Apr 2015 18:09, "Leon Liesener"
<leon.liesener(a)wikipedia.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The problem with ISO is that it's a standard for
>>>> language-independent
>>>> transliteration to Latin script. Since labels on Wikidata are
>>>> language-dependent, making use of ISO does not make sense really. If
>>>> you use ISO for Russian names in Cyrillic script, the label you get
>>>> is
>>>> not in English. It's still in Russian but transliterated to Latin
>>>> script. ISO thus would only fit as an alias for the Russian
>>>> interface
>>>> language, if at all.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-04-26 22:39 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <
>>>> gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>gt;:
>>>> > Hoi,
>>>> > <grin> ISO is a reliable source; it is THE standard
</grin>
>>>> Wikipedia is
>>>> > definitely not a standard by its own admission.
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > GerardM
>>>> >
>>>> > On 26 April 2015 at 22:37, Yaroslav M. Blanter
<putevod(a)mccme.ru>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 2015-04-26 22:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hoi
>>>> >>> My point is that it is not a given that we should follow
any
>>>> WIkipedia
>>>> >>> for anything. Also the point of romanisation of Russian is
not
>>>> for the
>>>> >>> benefit of Russian speakers, it is for the speakers of
English.
>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >>> GerardM
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On one hand, yes.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On the other hand, no reliable source uses ISO. When NYT writes
>>>> about a
>>>> >> Russian person, they do not use ISO, they use what the English
>>>> Wikipedia
>>>> >> uses or smth similar. In my passport, they do not use ISO
>>>> (fortunately), why
>>>> >> should then ISO be used on Wikidata in an entry about me?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheers
>>>> >> Yaroslav
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