Hi Maarten,
thanks. That's the best proposal I have seen so far in how to proceed with Phase 1 on Commons. I usually had pushed Commons support further to the back, but with this I think we would indeed create some real value with a small change. I will bounce Commons Phase 1 client support up on my list.
I guess we should disallow sitelinks to the File: namespace, in order to avoid people trying to add metadata about the media files themselves?
Cheers, Denny
2013/8/10 Maarten Dammers maarten@mdammers.nl
Hi everyone,
At Wikimania we had several discussions about the future of Wikidata and Commons. Some broader feedback would be nice. Now we have a property "Commons category" (https://www.wikidata.org/** wiki/Property:P373 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P373). This is a string and an intermediate solution. In the long run Commons should probably be a wikibase instance in it's own right (structured metadata stored at Commons) integrated with Wikidata.org, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Wikidata:Wikimedia_Commonshttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimedia_Commonsfor more info. In the meantime we should make Commons a wikidata client like Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. How would that work?
We have an item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Q9920https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9920for the city Haarlem. It links to the Wikipedia article "Haarlem" and the Wikivoyage article "Haarlem". It should link to the Commons gallery "Haarlem" (https://commons.wikimedia.**org/wiki/Haarlemhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Haarlem )
We have an item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Q7427769https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7427769for the category Haarlem. It links to the Wikipedia category "Haarlem". It should link to the Commons category "Haarlem" (https://commons.wikimedia.* *org/wiki/Category:Haarlemhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Haarlem ).
The category item (Q7427769) links to article item (Q9920) using the property "main category topic" (https://www.wikidata.org/** wiki/Property:P301 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P301). We would need to make an inverse property of P301 to make the backlink.
Some reasons why this is helpful:
- Wikidata takes care of a lot of things like page moves, deletions, etc.
Now with P373 (Commons category) it's all manual
- Having Wikidata on Commons means that you can automatically get
backlinks to Wikipedia, have intro's for category, etc etc
- It's a step in the right direction. It makes it easier to do next steps
Small change, lot's of benefits!
Maarten
______________________________**_________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l