Hi Maarten,
thanks. That's the best proposal I have seen so far in how to proceed with
Phase 1 on Commons. I usually had pushed Commons support further to the
back, but with this I think we would indeed create some real value with a
small change. I will bounce Commons Phase 1 client support up on my list.
I guess we should disallow sitelinks to the File: namespace, in order to
avoid people trying to add metadata about the media files themselves?
Cheers,
Denny
2013/8/10 Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>
Hi everyone,
At Wikimania we had several discussions about the future of Wikidata and
Commons. Some broader feedback would be nice.
Now we have a property "Commons category" (
https://www.wikidata.org/**
wiki/Property:P373 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P373>). This
is a string and an intermediate solution.
In the long run Commons should probably be a wikibase instance in it's own
right (structured metadata stored at Commons) integrated with
Wikidata.org,
see
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Wikidata:Wikimedia_Commons<https://www.w…
more info.
In the meantime we should make Commons a wikidata client like Wikipedia
and Wikivoyage. How would that work?
We have an item
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Q9920<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q992… the
city Haarlem. It links to the Wikipedia article "Haarlem" and the
Wikivoyage article "Haarlem". It should link to the Commons gallery
"Haarlem"
(
https://commons.wikimedia.**org/wiki/Haarlem<https://commons.wikimedia.o…
)
We have an item
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Q7427769<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q…
the category Haarlem. It links to the Wikipedia category "Haarlem". It
should link to the Commons category "Haarlem" (
https://commons.wikimedia.*
*org/wiki/Category:Haarlem<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Haarlem>
).
The category item (Q7427769) links to article item (Q9920) using the
property "main category topic" (
https://www.wikidata.org/**
wiki/Property:P301 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P301>).
We would need to make an inverse property of P301 to make the backlink.
Some reasons why this is helpful:
* Wikidata takes care of a lot of things like page moves, deletions, etc.
Now with P373 (Commons category) it's all manual
* Having Wikidata on Commons means that you can automatically get
backlinks to Wikipedia, have intro's for category, etc etc
* It's a step in the right direction. It makes it easier to do next steps
Small change, lot's of benefits!
Maarten
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