[[User:JohnnyMrNinja]] contacted me today to ask for developer input on his proposal to complete account unification. I copied his comments from the discussion on meta to a bug (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35707) and said I would post the request here.
I don't know enough about SUL to know what would be involved in carrying out his proposal. It sounds reasonable to me and it appears to have a lot of support on Meta, but that is the extent of my insight.
Please comment here on-list if you have any thoughts -- I'll point to this thread in Bugzilla.
Thanks!
Mark.
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:53:24 -0700, Mark A. Hershberger mah@wikimedia.org wrote:
[[User:JohnnyMrNinja]] contacted me today to ask for developer input on his proposal to complete account unification. I copied his comments from the discussion on meta to a bug (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35707) and said I would post the request here.
I don't know enough about SUL to know what would be involved in carrying out his proposal. It sounds reasonable to me and it appears to have a lot of support on Meta, but that is the extent of my insight.
Please comment here on-list if you have any thoughts -- I'll point to this thread in Bugzilla.
Thanks!
Mark.
Complete unification was the whole goal of CentralAuth. The fact that we still have un-unified users is a failure to meet that goal; and the fact that we still have un-unified users without conflicts who can have their name taken on another project is a failure to take key steps towards that goal. The only 'oppose' or even 'neutal' comments I see are people who have absolutely no clue how CA works, what the goal of CA was, and are making completely invalid speculation.
I see no reason for this not do be done as soon as someone with the capability to do this has time to do it. IMHO at minimum every single existing username should have been locked out from creation a long time ago.
On 05/04/12 01:14, Daniel Friesen wrote:
I see no reason for this not do be done as soon as someone with the capability to do this has time to do it. IMHO at minimum every single existing username should have been locked out from creation a long time ago.
It makes complete sense for me to do that, too and would probably be easy to perform. Only the caveat noted by MarcoAurelio (skip from that process blocked accounts) would need a bit more of code.
Why would we not want blocked accounts to be processed?
Indef user on one project != (always) a project wide issue.
Not doing so, would potentially cause issues the same as we already do where the accounts can't unify because they exist elsewhere.
Yes, I agree we should merge all accounts with no exceptions. For beginning we could create a dump of all users who could be merged and who couldn't be so that we get overview of what is needed to do. Probably a simple sql query could do that.
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:49 AM, K. Peachey p858snake@gmail.com wrote:
Indef user on one project != (always) a project wide issue.
Not doing so, would potentially cause issues the same as we already do where the accounts can't unify because they exist elsewhere.
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On 06/04/12 01:49, K. Peachey wrote:
Indef user on one project != (always) a project wide issue.
Not doing so, would potentially cause issues the same as we already do where the accounts can't unify because they exist elsewhere.
I'm talking about the account only existint in the indefinetly blocked project. Also note the case of accounts oversighted so they don't appear at Special:Listusers, would be a real failure to begin showing them at Special:Globalusers.
They could be just reserved do that it wouldn't be possible to create them
Same should apply for accounts which are indefinitely blocked, the fact that someone block user "Bob" on some wikipedia, doesn't mean that Bob can't participate on another project. There are many active users who are indefinitely blocked on another project, so why not to process them as well
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/04/12 01:49, K. Peachey wrote:
Indef user on one project != (always) a project wide issue.
Not doing so, would potentially cause issues the same as we already do where the accounts can't unify because they exist elsewhere.
I'm talking about the account only existint in the indefinetly blocked project. Also note the case of accounts oversighted so they don't appear at Special:Listusers, would be a real failure to begin showing them at Special:Globalusers.
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On 06/04/12 14:48, Petr Bena wrote:
They could be just reserved do that it wouldn't be possible to create them
Same should apply for accounts which are indefinitely blocked, the fact that someone block user "Bob" on some wikipedia, doesn't mean that Bob can't participate on another project. There are many active users who are indefinitely blocked on another project, so why not to process them as well
In such case, they would be not blocked at least one project, so they could still be processed.
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