I’ve just put in Wikimedia’s org application for Google Summer of Code 2009… Hopefully we’ll get in. :)
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009 ^ Add and update cool project ideas as a starting point for student applicants!
We’ve had mixed luck in previous years with GSoC, but I think we’ve got enough internal bandwidth this year that we can make sure there’s enough effort put into interacting with the student candidates ahead of time to pick the coolest and most go-get-em self-starter awesome projects and then support them through the project term.
I’ve also tossed up a student application template if you want to get started early. :)
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Application_template
-- brion
Yeah!
I was part of the "mixed luck" from last year, and honestly, I get warm feelings when reading the friendly http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Application_template ;)
I don't know if anyone here is willing to be a mentor this year, but please go ahead, and try to help a student. The experience is unique for students, as it really motivates them to get involved -- if not in mediawiki -- in an OSS project.
I don't know how to put it "nicely", but the key for GSoC to succeed, on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if we plan to host students this year. It's not about having "xx minutes available a day for my student", it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that answers are really simple.
And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some "awareness" from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC, asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive questions: let's try not to bite them! =)
So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)
2009/3/11 Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org:
I’ve just put in Wikimedia’s org application for Google Summer of Code 2009… Hopefully we’ll get in. :)
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009 ^ Add and update cool project ideas as a starting point for student applicants!
We’ve had mixed luck in previous years with GSoC, but I think we’ve got enough internal bandwidth this year that we can make sure there’s enough effort put into interacting with the student candidates ahead of time to pick the coolest and most go-get-em self-starter awesome projects and then support them through the project term.
I’ve also tossed up a student application template if you want to get started early. :)
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Application_template
-- brion
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Maybe someone can finish HTMLDiff from last summer.
-Chad
On Mar 11, 2009 2:00 AM, "Nicolas Dumazet" nicdumz@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah!
I was part of the "mixed luck" from last year, and honestly, I get warm feelings when reading the friendly
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Application_template ;)
I don't know if anyone here is willing to be a mentor this year, but please go ahead, and try to help a student. The experience is unique for students, as it really motivates them to get involved -- if not in mediawiki -- in an OSS project.
I don't know how to put it "nicely", but the key for GSoC to succeed, on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if we plan to host students this year. It's not about having "xx minutes available a day for my student", it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that answers are really simple.
And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some "awareness" from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC, asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive questions: let's try not to bite them! =)
So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)
2009/3/11 Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org:
I’ve just put in Wikimedia’s org application for Google Summer of Code >
2009… Hopefully we’ll get... -- Nicolas Dumazet — NicDumZ [ nɪk.d̪ymz ]
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On 3/11/09 4:55 AM, Chad wrote:
Maybe someone can finish HTMLDiff from last summer.
That would be awesome. :)
The inline diff view has pluses and minuses, but it's a very nice tool for the toolbox... (Sometimes you really want to see the source in place, but sometimes it's wayyyy easier to see in-place changes, especially for big changes many versions apart.)
-- brion
On 3/10/09 10:59 PM, Nicolas Dumazet wrote:
I don't know how to put it "nicely", but the key for GSoC to succeed, on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if we plan to host students this year. It's not about having "xx minutes available a day for my student", it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that answers are really simple.
And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some "awareness" from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC, asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive questions: let's try not to bite them! =)
Total agreement... I want to make sure that we're able to make students feel welcome and comfortable with the dev community -- not necessarily just talking to the official mentor but feeling like they can ask anybody anything just like they've been 'part of the team' for ages.
So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)
:D
-- brion
I would love to see my work on HTMLDiff continued this year by someone who's good at client side scripting. Of course I can help out with the server side stuff.
I think the main reason why my project was a "mixed success" is that I felt like I was pretty much on my own. Actually this is the first time I read about interest from the community in HTMLDiff since September last year. So my advice is:
- Make sure that as a community, you embrace the project you choose, or don't choose it at all. - Select mentors that are available and that have the time to help the student out when a task is outside of the student's skill set. My mentor last year was a celebrity, a great guy and possibly a genius, but I think I would have been happier with a mentor that was more average, that could work with me without giving me the feeling that I was taking up the CTO's valuable time.
Cheers,
Guy
2009/3/11 Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org
On 3/10/09 10:59 PM, Nicolas Dumazet wrote:
I don't know how to put it "nicely", but the key for GSoC to succeed, on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if we plan to host students this year. It's not about having "xx minutes available a day for my student", it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that answers are really simple.
And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some "awareness" from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC, asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive questions: let's try not to bite them! =)
Total agreement... I want to make sure that we're able to make students feel welcome and comfortable with the dev community -- not necessarily just talking to the official mentor but feeling like they can ask anybody anything just like they've been 'part of the team' for ages.
So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)
:D
-- brion
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On 3/10/09 5:17 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
I’ve just put in Wikimedia’s org application for Google Summer of Code 2009… Hopefully we’ll get in. :)
We're officially in! Woo!
Student applications will open *starting* March 23, *ending* April 3. This intermediate week before applications open is a good time to chat us up with your ideas and try to pair up with potential mentors. :)
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline
-- brion
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