The german squid is ready to go, pending dns updates. The ttl for the de.wp.org entry should be short to allow a fast dns switch in case of trouble with the german machine. This depends on the dns server entry getting finally switched from register.com to zwinger. Same for load balancing, peaks like the ones after tv reports only hit one of the squids currently while the load will be distributed after the dns switch.
On Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:35 PM Gabriel Wicke groups@gabrielwicke.de wrote:
The german squid is ready to go, pending dns updates. The ttl for the de.wp.org entry should be short to allow a fast dns switch in case of trouble with the german machine. This depends on the dns server entry getting finally switched from register.com to zwinger. Same for load balancing, peaks like the ones after tv reports only hit one of the squids currently while the load will be distributed after the dns switch.
Perhaps I missed some mails. But I was somewhat surprised about this announcement. I'm not happy with this, because this server will be a new Single Point of Failure.
I strongly recommend to discuss this point before changing the dns entries. The actual performance seems to be ok, so we don't need to hurry.
We're still having a lot of press contacts in germany. And I would not be amused to answer questions why wikipedia is down (especially in a live interview on german radio) ...
Arne [[de:Benutzer:Akl]]
Has anybody begun development on an integrated spell checking application for Mediawiki?
-Lucas http://www.rufy.com/
On Mar 10, 2004, at 10:26, Lucas Carlson wrote:
Has anybody begun development on an integrated spell checking application for Mediawiki?
Doesn't your browser have an integrated spell checker? Mine does (Safari), I would assume other major browsers offer this standard. Spell checking in a web app is _very_ clunky to do. When the browser already offers this capability integrated in the editor, that's much simpler.
To answer your question more directly, several people have _begun_ development on spell checking. I don't know what state they're in.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Theoretically, it is true that web browsers have built in spell checkers, but in reality, one of my pet-peeves about wikipedia is that there are so many spelling errors in the posts. If there was a spelling check before submission, that would reduce the spelling errors tremendously I am sure. I have seen clean web app spelling checks in the past.
-Lucas http://www.rufy.com/
On Mar 10, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Mar 10, 2004, at 10:26, Lucas Carlson wrote:
Has anybody begun development on an integrated spell checking application for Mediawiki?
Doesn't your browser have an integrated spell checker? Mine does (Safari), I would assume other major browsers offer this standard. Spell checking in a web app is _very_ clunky to do. When the browser already offers this capability integrated in the editor, that's much simpler.
To answer your question more directly, several people have _begun_ development on spell checking. I don't know what state they're in.
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:54:08 -0800, Lucas Carlson wrote:
Theoretically, it is true that web browsers have built in spell checkers, but in reality, one of my pet-peeves about wikipedia is that there are so many spelling errors in the posts. If there was a spelling check before submission, that would reduce the spelling errors tremendously I am sure. I have seen clean web app spelling checks in the past.
Archivist did a prototype for plain wiki syntax. Html-based spell checkers are available of course, see http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor.
The plan is to set two DNS servers, zwinger.wikipedia.org, and joey.bomis.com. I was going to make this change yesterday, but there was some strangeness (I couldn't 'dig @zwinger.wikipedia.org www.wikipedia.org'). So, we will have 2 nameservers, but register.com will no longer be in control.
Eventually, both of the servers will be living in the same colocation facility. So, I suppose we can see that as a single point of failure as well. Of course, if the network connection in the colo goes down for any long period of time, DNS will not be our primary concern.
I intend to make the change soon (if I can nail down the problem I was having yesterday).
Jason Richey
Arne Klempert wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:35 PM Gabriel Wicke groups@gabrielwicke.de wrote:
The german squid is ready to go, pending dns updates. The ttl for the de.wp.org entry should be short to allow a fast dns switch in case of trouble with the german machine. This depends on the dns server entry getting finally switched from register.com to zwinger. Same for load balancing, peaks like the ones after tv reports only hit one of the squids currently while the load will be distributed after the dns switch.
Perhaps I missed some mails. But I was somewhat surprised about this announcement. I'm not happy with this, because this server will be a new Single Point of Failure.
I strongly recommend to discuss this point before changing the dns entries. The actual performance seems to be ok, so we don't need to hurry.
We're still having a lot of press contacts in germany. And I would not be amused to answer questions why wikipedia is down (especially in a live interview on german radio) ...
Arne [[de:Benutzer:Akl]]
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:13:39 -0800, Jason Richey wrote:
The plan is to set two DNS servers, zwinger.wikipedia.org, and joey.bomis.com. I was going to make this change yesterday, but there was some strangeness (I couldn't 'dig @zwinger.wikipedia.org www.wikipedia.org').
Mind the 'm' ;-) 'dig @zwinger.wikimedia.org www.wikipedia.org any' works better.
Arne has his point of course- two squids configured for failover would be better, especially as the german hoster is a rather cheap one. No reboots during the weekend for example... A short dns timeout would keep the downtime low in case the machine disappears, but some isps apparently don't care about dns ttl's.
Gabriel Wicke wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:13:39 -0800, Jason Richey wrote:
The plan is to set two DNS servers, zwinger.wikipedia.org, and joey.bomis.com. I was going to make this change yesterday, but there was some strangeness (I couldn't 'dig @zwinger.wikipedia.org www.wikipedia.org').
Mind the 'm' ;-) 'dig @zwinger.wikimedia.org www.wikipedia.org any' works better.
Right, but register.com wouldn't accept zwinger.wikiMedia.org as a DNS serversomesome reason or other, so it will have to be zwinger.wikiPedia.org.
On Mar 10, 2004, at 14:11, Jason Richey wrote:
Gabriel Wicke wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:13:39 -0800, Jason Richey wrote:
The plan is to set two DNS servers, zwinger.wikipedia.org, and joey.bomis.com. I was going to make this change yesterday, but there was some strangeness (I couldn't 'dig @zwinger.wikipedia.org www.wikipedia.org').
Mind the 'm' ;-) 'dig @zwinger.wikimedia.org www.wikipedia.org any' works better.
Right, but register.com wouldn't accept zwinger.wikiMedia.org as a DNS serversomesome reason or other, so it will have to be zwinger.wikiPedia.org.
We've now got the zwinger.wikiPedia.org thing resolved so it's the right address (yay) and should work. Sooner or later it should be "safe" to try switching...
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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