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Nicolas Vervelle

4 Nov 2013 4 Nov '13

8:29 p.m.

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Dan Garry

4 Nov 4 Nov

8:40 p.m.

New subject: Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it. Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing. Thanks, Dan On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle <nvervelle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited on French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters all over the article. Could you please stop immediately VE ? How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests before ? Nico _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

-- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager for Platform Wikimedia Foundation

Risker

8:43 p.m.

New subject: Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

Likely related to this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296 It is also happening on English Wikipedia, according to the VE feedback page. Risker On 4 November 2013 15:40, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited

French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters

all

over the article. Could you please stop immediately VE ? How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests before ? Nico _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

-- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager for Platform Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Nicolas Vervelle

8:44 p.m.

New subject: Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

Yes, it's happening everywhere, but English doesn't have accented characters, so damages are more limited. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass

this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of

it.

Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing. Thanks, Dan On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle <nvervelle(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited

French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters

all > over the article. > > Could you please stop immediately VE ? > > How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real

tests

before ? Nico _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

_______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Erik Moeller

8:58 p.m.

New subject: Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

This was due to a broken deployment of Parsoid, the new MediaWiki parser used by VisualEditor. A new library dependency defaulted to iso8859-1 instead of utf-8, which caused character munging to occur. Gabriel is working on a postmortem and we'll share this shortly with recommendations on how to avoid such an incident in future. We're very sorry for the breakage. Affected edits likely have already been reverted - but if there's anything in addition we can do, let us know. The team is still actively investigating the issue on #mediawiki-visualeditor on irc.freenode.net, which is the best place to reach them. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation

Gabriel Wicke

10:57 p.m.

New subject: Parsoid charset corruption post-mortem

On 11/04/2013 12:58 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:

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I have created a post-mortem at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20131104-Parsoid The most important recommendation is the creation of automated full-stack web API tests in addition to our existing parser test and round-trip test setups. This should catch library issues like this in the future before deployment. We also updated the Parsoid deploy guidelines to include manual edit checks on non-English wikis, which will help to catch any remaining production-specific deployment issues. Gabriel

Nicolas Vervelle

8:43 p.m.

New subject: Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

Well, yes it's more than urgent, several articles are trashed every minute. How can something like that be unleashed into big wikis without proper testing ? On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited

French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters

all

Bartosz Dziewoński

9:16 p.m.

The bug for this was https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56583 . -- Matma Rex

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