Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited on French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters all over the article.
Could you please stop immediately VE ?
How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests before ?
Nico
I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it. Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.
Thanks, Dan
On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nvervelle@gmail.com wrote:
Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited on French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters all over the article.
Could you please stop immediately VE ?
How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests before ?
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Likely related to this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296
It is also happening on English Wikipedia, according to the VE feedback page.
Risker
On 4 November 2013 15:40, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it. Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.
Thanks, Dan
On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nvervelle@gmail.com wrote:
Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited
on
French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters
all
over the article.
Could you please stop immediately VE ?
How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests before ?
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Yes,
it's happening everywhere, but English doesn't have accented characters, so damages are more limited.
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Likely related to this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296
It is also happening on English Wikipedia, according to the VE feedback page.
Risker
On 4 November 2013 15:40, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass
on
this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of
it.
Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.
Thanks, Dan
On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nvervelle@gmail.com wrote:
Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited
on
French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters
all
over the article.
Could you please stop immediately VE ?
How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real
tests
before ?
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This was due to a broken deployment of Parsoid, the new MediaWiki parser used by VisualEditor. A new library dependency defaulted to iso8859-1 instead of utf-8, which caused character munging to occur.
Gabriel is working on a postmortem and we'll share this shortly with recommendations on how to avoid such an incident in future. We're very sorry for the breakage. Affected edits likely have already been reverted - but if there's anything in addition we can do, let us know. The team is still actively investigating the issue on #mediawiki-visualeditor on irc.freenode.net, which is the best place to reach them.
Erik
On 11/04/2013 12:58 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
This was due to a broken deployment of Parsoid, the new MediaWiki parser used by VisualEditor. A new library dependency defaulted to iso8859-1 instead of utf-8, which caused character munging to occur.
I have created a post-mortem at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20131104-Parsoid
The most important recommendation is the creation of automated full-stack web API tests in addition to our existing parser test and round-trip test setups. This should catch library issues like this in the future before deployment.
We also updated the Parsoid deploy guidelines to include manual edit checks on non-English wikis, which will help to catch any remaining production-specific deployment issues.
Gabriel
Well, yes it's more than urgent, several articles are trashed every minute. How can something like that be unleashed into big wikis without proper testing ?
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it. Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing.
Thanks, Dan
On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle nvervelle@gmail.com wrote:
Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited
on
French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters
all
over the article.
Could you please stop immediately VE ?
How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests before ?
Nico _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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