Dear Urs Richle,
What I want to do is make a picture of the linkages in layers you could turn off or on to see how they go together in XTM, RDF or OWL. Somewhere between these will be the best fit/clearest picture.
I could not get through to your email or find you on http://tecfa.unige.ch/. Please let me know how to reach you to continue this discussion so we can create one or two concrete examples to post.
Sincerely, Deborah MacPherson
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:17:24 -0700 From: Evan Martin evanm@google.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: [WikiEN-l] Ranking articles using machine-generated stats To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@wikimedia.org Cc: English Wikipedia wikien-l@wikipedia.org Message-ID: 9f43d19d0510051217n10249becpf0378e4326fb859@mail.google.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 10/5/05, Neil Harris usenet@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
Neil Harris wrote:
The corpus-based measures are particularly interesting; they mean we don't need to bug Google for a million search keys.
Although if anyone from Google is monitoring this list, and wants to give me a Google Account with 1.25M search keys, I'd be happy to set off the appropriate script... or send it to you to run.
In any case, the number of results reported is a very approximate estimate. See, for example, http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2005-02-08.html#n72
I think it'd be much easier to use a standard measure of usefulness: look at access logs on wikipedia's end. If article A gets twice the number of hits per day as article B, it would seem natural that someone would be twice as likely to look it up in a paper-based encyclopedia. (There are certainly exceptions like hot news stories or controversial topics during a revert war, but I think it'd take you a long way...)
I like Neil's list too, but that, as they observed, is a lot more work.
-- Evan, monitoring this list :)
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 12:49:46 -0700 From: Johannes Ernst jernst+wikipedia.org@netmesh.us Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Single Sign-On To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 21696F4B-DC98-4379-9688-0AB28FE3491B@netmesh.us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
- Is this the right mailing list to discuss this?
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists, this list is 'for any WikiMedia development issues, technical discussions, ..." which is what I'd like to discuss.
MediaWiki-l seems to be "for people with questions about their own installation of MediaWiki" which isn't really what I have in mind.
Johannes Ernst
Dear Deborah, thanks for your respons. You can find my e-mail on http://www.sheherazade.ch As I wrote in my last mail, my first step will be to extract the different kinds of links from the Wiki-content. Then I will propose a list of different links for a given topic by a Web Service. (this is devlopped as MediaWiki-extensions)
Second: I would like to descripe the hole linked Wiki-conten with Topic Maps(XTM). Afterwards it would be possible to create interactif visualizations of the Wiki-conten. What do you mean with "a picture in layers" - would the layers be static or dynamic? How would you create them? With which technology?
Best regards Urs
deborah.macpherson <deborah.macpherson@...> writes:
Dear Urs Richle,
What I want to do is make a picture of the linkages in layers you could turn off or on to see how they go together in XTM, RDF or OWL. Somewhere between these will be the best fit/clearest picture.
I could not get through to your email or find you on http://tecfa.unige.ch/. Please let me know how to reach you to continue this discussion so we can create one or two concrete examples to post.
Sincerely, Deborah MacPherson
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 20:24:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Urs Richle mail@sheherazade.ch Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Map of Wikipedia To: wikitech-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: loom.20051005T215425-113@post.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello, I'm working on a project to visualize the semantic network of MediaWiki-content. I tested the SpecialPage implementation of the Touchgraph-applet on http://wiki.sheherazade.ch/index.php/Spezial:Touchgraph (thanks to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fxparlant/Touchgraph). My idea is to use the Topic Maps (XTM)-standard to describe the semantic network. XTM allows a more complex description of all different kinds of links then the XML-file used by Touchgraph. Applications like Omnigator from Ontopia (http://www.ontopia.net) are able to read and visualize XTM-files.
The seconde idea is to propose a list of different links for an article and the XTM-file by a webservice (compare RPC-interface of JSPWiki --> http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/WikiRPCInterface). I will use the NuSOAP-library for this.
Does someone work on a similar project to describe the semantic network of MediaWiki-content with XTM, RDF or OWL?
Does someone work on a webservice-extension for MediaWiki?
Please contact me.
Urs Richle www.sheherazade.ch TECFA, University of Geneva, Switzerland http://tecfa.unige.ch/
deborah.macpherson <deborah.macpherson@...> writes:
I am interested in making a map of Wikipedia in order to
streamline the content,
provide an overview of different areas, and connect
Wikipedia to digital archives
maintained by museums and laboratories all around
the world. For more information
please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CDT_proposal .
If you would like to collaborate, or if you
already have similar efforts underway,
please contact me.
Thank you,
Deborah MacPherson
Deborah MacPherson, Projects Director Accuracy&Aesthetics, A Nonprofit Organization for the Advancement of Education, Cultural Heritage, and Science www.accuracyandaesthetics.com www.deborahmacpherson.com
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