On 30/09/06, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/30/06, Walter Vermeir walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
For Ogg Vorbis there is; http://www.jcraft.com/jorbis/ And with that you can play a Ogg Vorbis file without a player at the client side.
I set it up weeks ago and have been able to gather fairly little interest in it... thus my frustration with people insisting that we must use proprietary formats for ease of use.
I, and I assume most of those who saw it, thought it was an early demo - not something ready to roll. I also wasn't aware it ran under GCJ as well as proprietary Java.
As such, WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? ROLL IT OUT! SOMETHING USABLE! IT SHOULD BE ON EVERY OGG IMAGE PAGE!
(The "about" will have to mention it works fine under GCJ and is Free-As-In-Stallman Software all the way down.)
cc: to wikitech-l in case there's some technical hiccup to doing so
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 30/09/06, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/30/06, Walter Vermeir walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
For Ogg Vorbis there is; http://www.jcraft.com/jorbis/ And with that you can play a Ogg Vorbis file without a player at the client side.
I set it up weeks ago and have been able to gather fairly little interest in it... thus my frustration with people insisting that we must use proprietary formats for ease of use.
I, and I assume most of those who saw it, thought it was an early demo
- not something ready to roll. I also wasn't aware it ran under GCJ as
well as proprietary Java.
As such, WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? ROLL IT OUT! SOMETHING USABLE! IT SHOULD BE ON EVERY OGG IMAGE PAGE!
(The "about" will have to mention it works fine under GCJ and is Free-As-In-Stallman Software all the way down.)
cc: to wikitech-l in case there's some technical hiccup to doing so
- d.
The Vietnamese-language projects currently link to JOrbisPlayer on all its OGG description pages. [1] We use a hack in order to make this work: we have [[MediaWiki:Fileinfo]] call [[MediaWiki:Playfile]], passing the MIME type as a parameter. If anyone creates another OGG player on the Wikimedia Toolserver, we'd be happy to link to that as well.
[1] See, for example, the JOrbisPlayer link at: http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%ACnh:SCA_approach.ogg
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 07:04:36PM -0700, Minh Nguyen wrote:
The Vietnamese-language projects currently link to JOrbisPlayer on all its OGG description pages. [1] We use a hack in order to make this work: we have [[MediaWiki:Fileinfo]] call [[MediaWiki:Playfile]], passing the MIME type as a parameter. If anyone creates another OGG player on the Wikimedia Toolserver, we'd be happy to link to that as well.
I'm a fan of Helix Player, myself. I don't think there's a Windows version of it, though.
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 07:04:36PM -0700, Minh Nguyen wrote:
The Vietnamese-language projects currently link to JOrbisPlayer on all its OGG description pages. [1] We use a hack in order to make this work: we have [[MediaWiki:Fileinfo]] call [[MediaWiki:Playfile]], passing the MIME type as a parameter. If anyone creates another OGG player on the Wikimedia Toolserver, we'd be happy to link to that as well.
I'm a fan of Helix Player, myself. I don't think there's a Windows version of it, though.
Actually, the point of the links is that you don't have to download anything (server-side players). For other clients, we link to our audio help page. I suppose such a player would have to be on the Toolserver, since otherwise it would be remote loading.
There's already code in branch from one of our Summer of Code projects for this, using the Java player from Fluendo and optionally also a Firefox extension / IE plugin based on the VLC player.
If you'd like to help Michael continue work on this, great.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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