Motherboard for the server we're going to use as Wikipedia front end. I haven't heard from Jason yet as to when he can make the trip to install it, but possibly Friday or Monday.
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I'll be able to make the trip to San Diego on Friday. The server should be ready to use (ssh-able for all people with accounts on the current server) on Saturday.
Should I install Apache? Anything sepcial besides mod-php? Any special compile-time options for PHP itself?
Jason
Jimmy Wales wrote:
Motherboard for the server we're going to use as Wikipedia front end. I haven't heard from Jason yet as to when he can make the trip to install it, but possibly Friday or Monday.
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(Jason Richey jasonr@bomis.com):
I'll be able to make the trip to San Diego on Friday. The server should be ready to use (ssh-able for all people with accounts on the current server) on Saturday.
Should I install Apache? Anything sepcial besides mod-php? Any special compile-time options for PHP itself?
I left instructions for how I configured and installed everything on the old server, but it's rather tricky, so you might just want to let me install this one too (you can check out the process yourself at /usr/wikidev/docs/INSTALL, skipping the MySQL parts). I've also updated the procedure a bit based on some testing I've done recently. As before I'll document everything step-by-step as I go.
We should also figure out a procedure for installing a testing all the wikis, then scheduling a DNS switchover.
Brion, now's the time to clean up all the ad-hoc changes made to the live wikis and get them into LocalSettings. I'm sure there are a few I've missed--can you get me a complete list?
Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
I left instructions for how I configured and installed everything on the old server, but it's rather tricky, so you might just want to let me install this one too
Be my guest... I'll send you a mail as soon as ssh is working on the new server.
(you can check out the process yourself at /usr/wikidev/docs/INSTALL, skipping the MySQL parts). I've also updated the procedure a bit based on some testing I've done recently. As before I'll document everything step-by-step as I go. We should also figure out a procedure for installing a testing all the wikis, then scheduling a DNS switchover.
I am in favor of a quick IP swap instead of a DNS switch. Register.com's DNS management is clumsy at best, and DNS is slow at propagating anyway. By swapping IP's, we can avoid the pain of waiting for DNS to change (and hoping pages are served correctly in the interim).
So, I think the new server should take the current server's IP (when we go live), and the current server should get a new IP. This implies that the mailing list software should either be moved to the new server, or an MX record should be added to DNS (simple in relation to changing dozens of subdomains) to point to the new ip of the current server.
Brion, now's the time to clean up all the ad-hoc changes made to the live wikis and get them into LocalSettings. I'm sure there are a few I've missed--can you get me a complete list?
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(Jason Richey jasonr@bomis.com):
So, I think the new server should take the current server's IP (when we go live), and the current server should get a new IP.
For testing, then, the current server should get that new IP now, so that we can install Apache on the new one, configure it to talk to mysql at that IP, and then switch it over without having to reconfigure. Can you switch IPs remotely?
This implies that the mailing list software should either be moved to the new server, or an MX record should be added to DNS (simple in relation to changing dozens of subdomains) to point to the new ip of the current server.
This has been mentioned before, but how about moving the mailings lists off entirely? That way, users can still communicate when the server is overloaded.
Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
This has been mentioned before, but how about moving the mailings lists off entirely? That way, users can still communicate when the server is overloaded.
I think this is a reasonable idea, and I'll think about what would be best on this. We're running a variety of mailing lists for a variety of domains on various machines right now. Possibly it would make sense to unify everything.
Jason and I will chat about it and get back to the mailing list on this question.
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
Brion, now's the time to clean up all the ad-hoc changes made to the live wikis and get them into LocalSettings. I'm sure there are a few I've missed--can you get me a complete list?
Off the top of my head:
Code changes: * Disabling updating and display of page counters on the English wiki
Style sheet changes: * Paragraph indentation tweak for Chinese * Background color for meta
And there are a number of things for Wiktionary that need to get into the code; mainly a zillion instances of "Wikipedia" changed to "Wiktionary", that still needs to get generalized. It's also behind on database schema updates, I suspect.
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(Brion Vibber vibber@aludra.usc.edu): [Configuration info]
Here's a thought: when we get the new server up, let's install the English wiki cleanly from the distribution, make sure it's all happy, then do the switch, _leaving the foreign wikis on the old server_ for a while, then do the same thing for each of the foreign ones in turn, updating them to the newest software, and making everything in sync, before we shut down apache on the old server.
Any problems with that?
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 04:13:26PM -0500, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
(Brion Vibber vibber@aludra.usc.edu): [Configuration info]
Here's a thought: when we get the new server up, let's install the English wiki cleanly from the distribution, make sure it's all happy, then do the switch, _leaving the foreign wikis on the old server_ for a while, then do the same thing for each of the foreign ones in turn, updating them to the newest software, and making everything in sync, before we shut down apache on the old server.
Any problems with that?
Will this conflict with the image upload area? I remember some languages using english images and thereby creating "pseudo-orphans".
Regards,
JeLuF
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