--- Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:

On Dec 20, 2003, at 08:41, Daniel Mayer wrote:

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So I guess the needs of Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks, and Wikisource (not to mention Wikitravel) are secondary then?

Yes, they are. They're smaller, less popular projects, and "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".

And minority rights mean next to nothing then? Should their needs be put permanently on the back burner just because they are have fewer hits? What about the very small Wikipedias that get close to no traffic - is setting more of them up really more important than internationalizing Wiktionary in German and French? Some Wikipedias have set up internal dictionaries due to the wait.

I would love to help but I can't access the server yet (I know this is on your very long ToDo list that every body adds to so I haven't bothered you much about it). Don't get me wrong - I deeply appreciate the work you do and firmly believe that without you Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects would be in sad shape due to nearly constant server and software problems.

That doesn't mean they're _irrelevant_, and I'd appreciate an apology for the "chauvinism" comment.

It wasn't directed at you it was directed at the Wikipedia-specific direction of the code and Jimbo's apparent approval of that (the code part is not your fault - or anyone's fault really - it is just the way things developed).

All I want is for us to move in the direction of making MediaWiki more usable for all Wikimedia projects (something we /have/ been doing) - Jimbo's first comment wasn't in that direction so I challenged it since what Jimbo says is often seen as policy. But if you were offended then I apologize. I most certainly did not want to cause you any grief.

-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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