Hi, these need to be priority issues, because we're trying to resolve a potential fork before it really gets underway!
----- Forwarded message from "Vladimir V. Medeiko" vmwiki@nashi.spb.ru -----
From: "Vladimir V. Medeiko" vmwiki@nashi.spb.ru Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:08:11 +0400 To: "Jimmy Wales" jwales@bomis.com Subject: Re: I Suppose There Are no Enough Reasons for Forking Anymore. | Re: Why the fork?
Dear Jimmi,
thank you very much for this (and for all you do!)
I've checked for langual problems in ru.wikipedia.org. There are four problems found - one is to be fixed by me soon, and other seem to have the same root:
1. English text in LanguageRu.php - translation in progress, I will write to Brion on completion.
2. "Database error" report as result of any search (including in latin letters) in search box in ru.wikipedia.org (A database query syntax error has occurred. The last attempted database query was: "SELECT cur_id,cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_text FROM cur,searchindex WHERE cur_id=si_page AND ( (MATCH (si_title) AGAINST ('linux')) ) AND cur_namespace IN (0) LIMIT 0, 100" from within function "SearchEngine::showResults". MySQL returned error "1016: Can't open file: 'searchindex.MYI'. (errno: 145)".)
3. Error when moving files in ru.wikipedia.org
(A database query syntax error has occurred. The last attempted database query was: "UPDATE LOW_PRIORITY searchindex SET si_title='testtesttest' WHERE si_page=811" from within function "SearchUpdate::doUpdate". MySQL returned error "1016: Can't open file: 'searchindex.MYI'. (errno: 145)".)
4. Error when uploading files in ru.wikipedia.org
(A database query syntax error has occurred. The last attempted database query was: "REPLACE DELAYED INTO searchindex (si_page,si_title,si_text) VALUES (999,'saturn planet jpg',' u8d18du8d182u8d0be u8d0bfu8d0beu8d0bbu8d0bdu8d0beu8d186u8d0b2u8d0b5u8d182u8d0bdu8d0beu8d0b5 u8d0b8u8d0b7u8d0beu8d0b1u8d180u8d0b0u8d0b6u8d0b5u8d0bdu8d0b8u8d0b5 u8d181u8d0b0u8d182u8d183u8d180u8d0bdu8d0b0 u8d0bfu8d0beu8d0bbu8d183u8d187u8d0b5u8d0bdu8d0be u8d181 u8d0bau8d0b0 u8d0b2u8d0beu8d18fu8d0b4u8d0b6u8d0b5u8d180-2 4 u8d0b0u8d0b2u8d0b3u8d183u8d181u8d182u8d0b0 u8d181 u8d180u8d0b0u8d181u8d181u8d182u8d0beu8d18fu8d0bdu8d0b8u8d18f 21 u8d0bcu8d0bbu8d0bd u8d0bau8d0bc from en wikipedia ')" from within function "SearchUpdate::doUpdate". MySQL returned error "1016: Can't open file: 'searchindex.MYI'. (errno: 145)".)
However, file appear there, despite problems with uploading.
Also, Russian description text in Recent Changes seems to chopped in middle - last character is invalid (maybe it's because UTF-8 strings are longer than English, so the software chops text in middle of character).
I appreciate any help in solving this
--
/=- Vladimir V. Medeiko
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Wales" jwales@bomis.com To: "Vladimir V. Medeiko" vmwiki@nashi.spb.ru Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: I Suppose There Are no Enough Reasons for Forking Anymore. | Re: Why the fork?
Oh, I'm sorry about that! I received a confusing report.
The main thing I want to be known is that if there is a problem which led to the forking, I want the opportunity to address and solve that problem, so that everyone is happy. There is no need for anyone to be enemies here. :-)
Vladimir V. Medeiko wrote:
Dear Jimmy,
the only your mistake is that I was NOT one who forked the project, on contrary, I became aware of this forking 3 days ago.
I agree with every your other point! I will contact the forker, but even
if
he refuses to merge the two projects, I will manually copy all the
articles
from wikipedia.ru to ru.wikipedia.org. However, considering that forker
is
presumable responsible and clever person, I hope there won't be problem
for
wikipedia.ru to point to ru.wikipedia.org eventually.
--
/=- Vladimir V. Medeiko
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Wales" jwales@bomis.com To: vmwiki@nashi.spb.ru Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Why the fork?
I'm writing to ask why you registered wikipedia.ru and started a separate project there. I'd like very much to offer you whatever you need to rejoin the main project immediately.
If not, I'd like to ask you for the courtesy of not using our name. I have heard it said that 'wikipedia' sounds strange in Russian language anyway, and if that's true, then perhaps a better name could be used for your project?
But really, the existing Wikipedia project is a global effort, and we feel that it's really important to have a broad umbrella with a place for everyone in the world. It'd be so much better if we just fixed it so www.wikipedia.ru points to ru.wikipedia.org.
Interlanguage linking is only one of the reasons, there are many more. Wikipedia is a project focussed on learning and peace for everyone, of every nation, and splitting up into individual fiefdoms is not desirable for any of us.
Let me know what you'd like me to do, and what you'd like to do.
--Jimbo
----- End forwarded message -----
Jeez, why don't people just _report_ these things immediately with the big friendly "bug report" link?
Bah.
Search on ru.wikipedia.org should be running again.
Someone's actively working on the translation file, I'll get it installed after I've tested it.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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