Crap, crap, http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_logo_contest was just vandalised.
If it is ok with some people, I think I should code a feature so that non-registered users are not allowed to delete anymore than 50 characters in a row. (as you just have found out, i hacked around with difflib.php in order to get some ideas for the difflib.py that i worked on, so i could do this quickly).
I believe 50 characters might even be too much.
I think the same should go for adding?
Next, we have to consider that if joe-IPaddress gets a warning that " you have tried to delete 50 characters or more, this is not allowed unless you register" might start to game the system with a wget script.
The simple fact is,however, that they could already do that before this security feature is implemented.
HOWEVER, seeing this warning might incurr more aggressive behaviour on the whole.
What do you think?
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Hunter Peress wrote:
Crap, crap, http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_logo_contest was just vandalised.
If it is ok with some people, I think I should code a feature so that non-registered users are not allowed to delete anymore than 50 characters in a row. (as you just have found out, i hacked around with difflib.php in order to get some ideas for the difflib.py that i worked on, so i could do this quickly).
I believe 50 characters might even be too much.
I think the same should go for adding?
Next, we have to consider that if joe-IPaddress gets a warning that " you have tried to delete 50 characters or more, this is not allowed unless you register" might start to game the system with a wget script.
The simple fact is,however, that they could already do that before this security feature is implemented.
HOWEVER, seeing this warning might incurr more aggressive behaviour on the whole.
What do you think?
i think 50 might be too little. 50 could easily be a malformed sntence of a POV sentence... maybe something like 80, or somewhere around there. Just because 50 chars might easily be a small rewording, especially someplace where html entities are present, since a single one of those is 4 charcters... For en it might be ok, but I don't know if it would work for the foreign wikis
Lightning
Hunter-
Crap, crap, http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_logo_contest was just vandalised.
If it is ok with some people, I think I should code a feature so that non-registered users are not allowed to delete anymore than 50 characters in a row. (as you just have found out, i hacked around with difflib.php in order to get some ideas for the difflib.py that i worked on, so i could do this quickly).
This won't help at all, and will only impair normal use. Anons delete substantial amounts of text all the time, perfectly legitimately, they even help in blanking vandalism. Many anons are registered users who cannot or do not want to sign in from where they are for whatever reason.
This really reminds me of Slashdot style lameness filters -- all they accomplish is alienate users. If you want to reduce vandalism, don't make it harder to cause -- make it easier to fix. That's the wiki way. With a fast difflib, it should be possible to systematically view and flag all anonymous edits for the past x hours, for example.
Regards,
Erik
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Hunter Peress wrote:
Crap, crap, http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_logo_contest was just vandalised.
If it is ok with some people, I think I should code a feature so that non-registered users are not allowed to delete anymore than 50 characters in a row. (as you just have found out, i hacked around with difflib.php in order to get some ideas for the difflib.py that i worked on, so i could do this quickly).
I believe 50 characters might even be too much.
Aahhhhh.... The worst proposal I have heared of changing the Wikicode. Some very good contributors are non-registered users. Some others are registered, but have browsers that tend to log them out regularly. It's happened to me that I found myself logged out without realizing it, but I can just login again. However, if it happens every session, I can very well imagine that one does not take the difficulty.
It will indeed stop people from removing large chunks of text at random, but it will not stop them from writing "this sucks" or "and he was a gay pervert" into articles, which are much more common and less likely to be caught.
I think the same should go for adding?
Fair enough. You set the record, you break it. So now if I am an anonymous user and I happen to know something about (fill in a subject), I am not allowed to write it, because what I write might also have been a few lines of nonsense or some obscenities? Not to mention what it does for interlanguage links...
HOWEVER, seeing this warning might incurr more aggressive behaviour on the whole.
What do you think?
I think that the ratio of stopped trolls to stopped decent users is too low to even _consider_ this as an option.
Andre Engels
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