Hi all,
(2nd attempt to post 2nd messge, sorry if this is a duplicate.)
We've started to document our thinking about page navigation, as part of a project to use mediawiki for hosting longer structured texts (such as books, or teacher professional development materials).
You can see an example of such navigation here: http://oer.educ.cam.ac.uk/wiki/OER4Schools where the red navigation box on the right lists all the pages belonging to the resource, and there are 'previous' and 'next' buttons. This list is automatically maintained, using the semantic extension.
It's documented here: http://oer.educ.cam.ac.uk/wiki/EWTE#Wiki_navigation_between_pages. with a simple example here: http://oer.educ.cam.ac.uk/wiki/EWTE/nav
In some ways, it's quite close to what you can do with the book/collection extension, and an example using that extension is given here: http://oer.educ.cam.ac.uk/wiki/EWTE/booknav
Would one of the maintainers of that extension be interested in having a look at the above links, and then be up for a chat, to see whether there is overlap?
Thanks! Bjoern
Special:Book doesn't know about books. I know it's absurd, but Wikipedia. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28448
Because $reason, what you ask is actually being done separately, as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Book_management . Getting an extension enabled for Wikibooks or Wikisource is a practically impossible task. If you could start using the experimental https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BookManagerv2 and report back on your experience with it, I'm sure that the development progress would get much faster.
Nemo
On 15-01-06 11:49 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Getting an extension enabled for Wikibooks or Wikisource is a practically impossible task.
Wait, why would that be?
I'm pretty sure the criteria for those projects are the same as everywhere else - and may in fact be slightly more lax as performance isn't /quite/ as much an issue.
-- Marc
On Tue, 2015-01-06 at 12:09 -0500, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
On 15-01-06 11:49 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Getting an extension enabled for Wikibooks or Wikisource is a practically impossible task.
Wait, why would that be?
I'm pretty sure the criteria for those projects are the same as everywhere else - and may in fact be slightly more lax as performance isn't /quite/ as much an issue.
Yeah, I don't see any criteria "per site" on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue or https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_an_extension_for_deployment
andre
Hi Nemo,
that's very interesting. So Extension:BookManagerv2 doesn't integration with Special:Book? E.g. can books created with Extension:BookManagerv2 be printed to pdf via the new toolchain?
Does anybody have experience with Extension:BookManagerv2?
Thanks, Bjoern
On 6 January 2015 at 16:49, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Special:Book doesn't know about books. I know it's absurd, but Wikipedia. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28448
Because $reason, what you ask is actually being done separately, as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Book_management . Getting an extension enabled for Wikibooks or Wikisource is a practically impossible task. If you could start using the experimental https://www.mediawiki.org/ wiki/Extension:BookManagerv2 and report back on your experience with it, I'm sure that the development progress would get much faster.
Nemo
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Bjoern, I don't know whether BookManagerv2 is able to "feed" Collection; I asked a few months ago at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28448#302254 (cc Raylton), you could file the request as separate bug. A comment says «Extension:BookManager, which provides both automatic navigation and automatic print version». https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T17073#203184
I doubt anyone in Wikimedia ever really tried this extension yet (cc Wikisource, Wikibooks). You could check those 3 wikis: https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Extension:BookManagerv2 (there's also an OER wiki of Guatemala it seems). Again, this is uncharted territory... if the extension gets some real world usage and feedback outside Wikimedia, its development may get faster and after some years it might end up being used in Wikisource/Wikibooks too; don't hope for it to go the other way round, because it never happens.
Nemo
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