On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 06:19:31PM +0530, Arvind Narayanan wrote: None in http://wikisophia.org/doc. I want url to documentation for the TeX chess package you're using there.

I agree - I left this the below text at the on the above link, with a comment for Erik. ===Simple=== If differentiation is required, it's not because *users need to know what the difference technically means. <Rend> is no doubt supposed to mean "render" - is this material to the user? If a distinction between <rend math> and <math> is required, an <rmath> tag will work just fine. Same obviously goes for the others. This problem does not appear to be neurosurgery. -Kunishiro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

Some weeks ago, we restarted speak to switch the French Wikipedia to UTF-8. The discussion deadline was schedule to yesterday and a very large consensus is achieved: * For: 27, * Neutral: 1, * Against: 0. The only concerns relate to tell users how to get a Unicode compliant browser and fix eventual problem the switch may generate. Can you please switch French Wikipedia to UTF-8? If we need to make some manual change in articles, please tell us. We have 2 bots that can make this kind of work. Regards, Aoineko PS : The discussion (in French): http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia:Prise_de_d%E9cision/UTF-8

Hi, This would only be a temporary solution. I think that the proper way is to use a bot to convert the faulty characters. Yann -- http://non-violence.org Site coopératif sur la non-violence http://forget-me.net Alternatives et non-violence http://fr.wikipedia.org Encyclopédie libre http://forget-me.net/pro/ Formations et services Linux

Evan Prodromou wrote: This is actually quite a good idea. This will probably work, of course with the only caveat that the site will be unavailable (or at least uneditable) during this time. Timwi

On Mar 9, 2004, at 17:11, Guillaume Blanchard wrote: Bots cannot make the necessary changes. The entire database needs to be dumped, converted, and re-imported. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

You probably never hear about that, but there is a TeX module to write the hieroglyphs text from a specific syntax. For example <-p:t-o-l:m-i-i-s->! may render the name of the pharaoh Ptolemy into a cartouche. Package is downloadable here: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/hieroglyph/?action=/tex-archive/fonts/. I would like to be able to use it on Wikipedia, but if it is not possible, I thought of an alternative simple idea. The alternative idea is to generate and load all pictures on the server (basic set is about 300 small pictures) and to create an external tool (I can host it) to generate wiki-table that put together those pictures to create hieroglyph text. This solution needs no modification to the software but make text modification difficult. For example, put p:t-o-l:m-i-i-s! in the tool may create the following table we just have to copy and paste to Wikipedia: {| | |[[image:hiero_p.png]] | [[image:hiero_t.png]] | rowspan="2" | [[image:hiero_o.png]] | [[image:hiero_l.png]] | [[image:hiero_m.png]] | rowspan="2" | [[image:hiero_i.png]] | rowspan="2" | [[image:hiero_i.png]] | rowspan="2" | [[image:hiero_s.png]] |} TeX or WikiTable generator, what is your recommendation? Aoineko

Truth is, we're planning support for svg, gnuplot, go and genaeology. Sysops will be able to change tag parameters on the fly; removing, if necessary, the 'rend' element and substituting local equivalents for class names. Look for it mid-April; and Erik asked us to upload a tarball for you guys to play with. Best, Peter

Arvind Narayanan wrote: Hm, can we use Wiki table syntax for this?... I've changed your page; it would be nice if you would update your script accordingly.