Is there any way to opt out of Liquid Threads and simply see the underlying talk page? I really really dislike the interface and it's been bugging me for some time... mostly due to it's reliance on JavaScript and links generated to it tend to be broken.
-- Jon Robson http://jonrobson.me.uk @rakugojon
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any way to opt out of Liquid Threads and simply see the underlying talk page? I really really dislike the interface and it's been bugging me for some time... mostly due to it's reliance on JavaScript and links generated to it tend to be broken.
LiquidThreads creates a page per post/reply; there's not a single underlying page.
Keep in mind that LQT is on its way out as well, Flow is coming at some point.
-- brion
Yehhh but that seems like ageeess away. Is there any intermediate way to access the underlying pages for posts and replies?
Also playing devils advocate.. if we are moving away from it wouldn't it be in our interest to stop using and supporting it?
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any way to opt out of Liquid Threads and simply see the underlying talk page? I really really dislike the interface and it's been bugging me for some time... mostly due to it's reliance on JavaScript and links generated to it tend to be broken.
LiquidThreads creates a page per post/reply; there's not a single underlying page.
Keep in mind that LQT is on its way out as well, Flow is coming at some point.
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Yehhh but that seems like ageeess away. Is there any intermediate way to access the underlying pages for posts and replies?
There's probably some way to get that info out and create a JS-driven LQT UI for mobile... I do notice that LQT has three API modules, which may help.
Also playing devils advocate.. if we are moving away from it wouldn't it be in our interest to stop using and supporting it?
LQT serves a legitimate purpose, which is to be a less shitty discussion system than plain Talk: pages that actually exists today.
But yeah, IMO Flow's way behind where it should be; it's probably the most important initiative we've got going other than the Visual Editor and I'd be happier if it was conveniently done already. :)
-- brion
Oh, just in case there was no such question on the list yet: will LQT threads be somehow converted to the Flow format, whatever it is? How would one access old talks otherwise?
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any way to opt out of Liquid Threads and simply see the underlying talk page? I really really dislike the interface and it's been bugging me for some time... mostly due to it's reliance on JavaScript and links generated to it tend to be broken.
LiquidThreads creates a page per post/reply; there's not a single underlying page.
Keep in mind that LQT is on its way out as well, Flow is coming at some point.
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On 17 July 2013 21:05, Paul Selitskas p.selitskas@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, just in case there was no such question on the list yet: will LQT threads be somehow converted to the Flow format, whatever it is? How would one access old talks otherwise?
This would be a truly wonderful thing, if possible. (Particularly for those of us running wikis that foolishly adopted LQT.)
- d.
Regarding old talk pages, due to the difficulty of extracting meaning the appropriate metadata correctly, ever time, from a wiki page we currently have no plans to migrate those into flow, they will be available in their original format for historical and linking purposes.
As for LQT threads, we hadn't considered it yet but since LQT already has the appropriate metadata and separation of post content it may be possible to migrate the data into Flow at a later point in time.
In summary: Talk pages: no LQT threads: maybe
Erik Bernhardson
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Paul Selitskas p.selitskas@gmail.comwrote:
Oh, just in case there was no such question on the list yet: will LQT threads be somehow converted to the Flow format, whatever it is? How would one access old talks otherwise?
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com
wrote:
Is there any way to opt out of Liquid Threads and simply see the underlying talk page? I really really dislike the interface and it's been bugging me for some time... mostly due to it's reliance on JavaScript and links generated to it tend to be broken.
LiquidThreads creates a page per post/reply; there's not a single underlying page.
Keep in mind that LQT is on its way out as well, Flow is coming at some point.
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2013/7/17 Erik Bernhardson ebernhardson@wikimedia.org
Regarding old talk pages, due to the difficulty of extracting meaning the appropriate metadata correctly, ever time, from a wiki page we currently have no plans to migrate those into flow, they will be available in their original format for historical and linking purposes.
Lucky we. :-)
Regarding opting out, from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads:
To deactivate LiquidThreads on a specific page on a wiki where LiquidThreads is opt-out add
{{#useliquidthreads:0}}
Should work, though you'll lose the current replies (IIRC)
-- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog
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