You do not check one by one. Just try what I suggested. Igal

2017-09-24 19:41 GMT+03:00 mathieu stumpf guntz < psychoslave@culture-libre.org>:

I didn't check one by one, but calling directly the ping template with all the parameters will work while calling ping with a template which transclusion provide the same string, so "Amqui|Ariel1024|…" won't work. So, maybe it's the vertical bar "|" which is not interpreted as a parameter separator in this case and the whole string is passed as a single parameter.

Le 24/09/2017 à 17:59, יגאל חיטרון a écrit :

Hi. Is there any chance for really forbidden characters? For example, did you try to check the input characters one by one? Or, maybe the last user name came with end of line, as part of template transclusion, and this will kill the mw.title.new/1 function. Igal (User:IKhitron)

2017-09-24 18:41 GMT+03:00 mathieu stumpf guntz psychoslave@culture-libre.org:

I'm trying to solve the problem exposed here:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Psychoslave#Templa te:Participants (in French)

In a nutshell, the goal is to be able to ping a group of user on meta. so ideally, you just type something like {{ping|my_group}} But as ping and the underlying "Module:Reply_to" are expecting one user per argument my current idea is to make something like {{ping|{{:/some_group/members} }}} so instead of {{ping|Amqui|Ariel1024|Aryamanarora|Benoît_Prieur|Daniel_ Kinzler_(WMDE)|Delarouvraie|Epantaleo|Ernest-Mtl| GastelEtzwane|JackPotte|Jberkel|Jitrixis|Kimdime|LA2|LaMèreV eille|Lydia_Pintscher_(WMDE)|Lyokoï|M0tty|Malaysiaboy| Marcmiquel|Micru|Nattes_à_chat|Nemo_bis|Noé|Otourly| Pamputt|psychoslave|Rich_Farmbrough|Rodelar|Satdeep_ Gill|Sebleouf|Shavtay|Stalinjeet|S_The_Singer|TAKASUGI_ Shinji|TaronjaSatsuma|Thibaut120094|Thiemo_Mättig_(WMDE)|tpt|Trizek_(WMF)| VIGNERON|Vive_la_Rosière|Xabier_Cañas|Xenophôn}}

I can just write {{ping|{{:Wiktionary/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group/affiliates}}}} for example

but even if I put verbatim in a template: Amqui|Ariel1024|Aryamanarora|Benoît_Prieur|Daniel_Kinzler_(W MDE)|Delarouvraie|Epantaleo|Ernest-Mtl|GastelEtzwane|JackPot te|Jberkel|Jitrixis|Kimdime| LA2|LaMèreVeille|Lydia_ Pintscher_(WMDE)|Lyokoï|M0tty|Malaysiaboy|Marcmiquel|Micru| Nattes_à_chat|Nemo_bis|Noé|Otourly|Pamputt|psychoslave| Rich_Farmbrough|Rodelar|Satdeep_Gill|Sebleouf|Shavtay| Stalinjeet|S_The_Singer|TAKASUGI_Shinji|TaronjaSatsuma |Thibaut120094|Thiemo_Mättig_(WMDE)|tpt|Trizek_(WMF)| VIGNERON|Vive_la_Rosière|Xabier_Cañas|Xenophôn in the page

and call ping with this template as argumement, it will end up with a "Error in Template:Reply to: Input contains forbidden characters."

This message is generated by the module Reply_to but I can't change it since it's protected.

So I'm looking for a way to bypass whatever generate this error, or more broadly any idea to resolve the exposed problem.

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Le 24/09/2017 à 19:31, bawolff a écrit :

Why not just make a template containing <includeonly>{{ping|first user|second user|third user|...}}</includeonly>

Your issue is almost certainly that the pipes aren't being tokenized as argument separators when they come from a transcluded template. (Its the same reason that {{!}} works in tables, except in reverse).

Alternatively, {{ping|{{subst::Wiktionary/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group/affiliates}}}} would probably work.

Great, it looks like it works, thank you.

My idea was that the parameter list should be generated from a bullet list written/included in "Wiktionary/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group". If you know template which already do that well or have any suggestion regarding the implementation, please let me know.

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On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 3:41 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz psychoslave@culture-libre.org wrote:

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I'm trying to solve the problem exposed here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Psychoslave#Template:Participants (in French)

In a nutshell, the goal is to be able to ping a group of user on meta. so ideally, you just type something like {{ping|my_group}} But as ping and the underlying "Module:Reply_to" are expecting one user per argument my current idea is to make something like {{ping|{{:/some_group/members}}}} so instead of {{ping|Amqui|Ariel1024|Aryamanarora|Benoît_Prieur|Daniel_Kinzler_(WMDE)|Delarouvraie|Epantaleo|Ernest-Mtl|GastelEtzwane|JackPotte|Jberkel|Jitrixis|Kimdime|LA2|LaMèreVeille|Lydia_Pintscher_(WMDE)|Lyokoï|M0tty|Malaysiaboy|Marcmiquel|Micru|Nattes_à_chat|Nemo_bis|Noé|Otourly|Pamputt|psychoslave|Rich_Farmbrough|Rodelar|Satdeep_Gill|Sebleouf|Shavtay|Stalinjeet|S_The_Singer|TAKASUGI_Shinji|TaronjaSatsuma|Thibaut120094|Thiemo_Mättig_(WMDE)|tpt|Trizek_(WMF)|VIGNERON|Vive_la_Rosière|Xabier_Cañas|Xenophôn}}

I can just write {{ping|{{:Wiktionary/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group/affiliates}}}} for example

but even if I put verbatim in a template: Amqui|Ariel1024|Aryamanarora|Benoît_Prieur|Daniel_Kinzler_(WMDE)|Delarouvraie|Epantaleo|Ernest-Mtl|GastelEtzwane|JackPotte|Jberkel|Jitrixis|Kimdime|LA2|LaMèreVeille|Lydia_Pintscher_(WMDE)|Lyokoï|M0tty|Malaysiaboy|Marcmiquel|Micru|Nattes_à_chat|Nemo_bis|Noé|Otourly|Pamputt|psychoslave|Rich_Farmbrough|Rodelar|Satdeep_Gill|Sebleouf|Shavtay|Stalinjeet|S_The_Singer|TAKASUGI_Shinji|TaronjaSatsuma|Thibaut120094|Thiemo_Mättig_(WMDE)|tpt|Trizek_(WMF)|VIGNERON|Vive_la_Rosière|Xabier_Cañas|Xenophôn in the page

and call ping with this template as argumement, it will end up with a "Error in Template:Reply to: Input contains forbidden characters."

This message is generated by the module Reply_to but I can't change it since it's protected.

So I'm looking for a way to bypass whatever generate this error, or more broadly any idea to resolve the exposed problem.

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On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 7:53 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychoslave@culture-libre.org> wrote:

Le 24/09/2017 à 19:31, bawolff a écrit :

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Why not just make a template containing <includeonly>{{ping|first user|second user|third user|...}}</includeonly>

Your issue is almost certainly that the pipes aren't being tokenized as argument separators when they come from a transcluded template. (Its the same reason that {{!}} works in tables, except in reverse).

Alternatively, {{ping|{{subst::Wiktionary/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group/affiliates}}}} would probably work.

I encounter a similar problem in an other template I'm trying to write. Indeed, `subst` works as expected, but I would like to keep the call as is. So that when saving, the list won't be expanded, but will stay dynamic. So using the same example, something like

{{ping|{{param::Wiktionary/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group/affiliates}}}}

Is there already a way to do that.

Such a thing would be incompatible with not expanding a template parameter until it's actually needed, since it wouldn't allow MediaWiki to know what parameters were actually specified until after expansion..

The other option I see is that the called template or module called should directly return the whole call. Actually, with a frame:expandTemplate or frame:preprocess it does work for the case I was asking this question.

Those are all possible solutions. I'd recommend avoiding frame:preprocess in favor of frame:expandTemplate if you go that route.