The reason that I'd like to know how many people clicked individual links is that I'd like to be able to track how people navigate from LearnWiki (or whatever its final name is) pages to pages on WIkipedia, Commons, Wikidata, etc.

At this time I don't feel that there's much value to my project from tracking individual users, and it's possible that I could use third party services (that is, other than WMF's URL shortener service) to perform the same function. I don't know how much work would be involved in setting up detailed internal traffic logging on the LearnWiki site. Where possible, I think that I'd prefer to take advantage of a WMF-hosted URL shortener service that provides logging with a level of granularity that's sufficient to be useful.

I'm open to other ideas, and I'm a novice when it comes to setting up analytics, so if you have other ideas I'd be glad to hear them. Perhaps we could take the discussion off-list, if you're willing to provide advice.

Thanks!

Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CatherineMunro/Bright_Places

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:

Umm, why would you want that over just looking at the page views for a page?

If its a, people navigating to a page internally vs externally, it would be probably better to try to convince analytics to break down the page view data between local and external referrers instead of relying on a url shortener to separate hits.

-- bawolff

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:

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Regarding "There seems to be interest in reviving the WMF hosted URL shortener service", +1 from me, particularly if there will be public logs of how many people (i.e. not bots) clicked a particular short link in a certain period of time that is long enough to provide some anonymity but short enough to be useful for analysis (such as 24 hours).

Thanks!

Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CatherineMunro/Bright_Places

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:59 AM, Daniel Kinzler <

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Hello all!

Here are the minutes from this week's meeting:

• There seems to be interest in reviving the WMF hosted URL shortener

service

• Ongoing work on preparing the move of WMF infrastructure to PHP7

• No IRC meeting on February 21

• RFC under discussion: MediaWiki support for Composer equivalent for

JavaScript packages https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107561

• Parsing team looking into changing HTML generated for embedded media.

Related RFC: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118517

• RFC ready for IRC meeting, probably on February 28: Normalize change

tag

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schema https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185355

• Last call closing on February 21, last chance to raise issues: Stop

logging autopatrol actions https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184485

You can also find our meeting minutes at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Committee/Minutes

See also the TechCom RFC board https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-rfcs/.

-- Daniel Kinzler Principal Platform Engineer

Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.

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