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On Wednesday 30 March 2005 23:21, Thomas Gries wrote:
your extension script is very very nice, but graphviz/dot is the older
and an established program - since years !
- and comes already with a
powerful set of commands which leaves no room for further wishes.
Actually, it left me with quite a few wishes (not so awkward syntax, more
pretty output, alternatives to grafical output, etc), and that is why I
started to develop my own solution (which could use some more work, of
I am not saying that graphviz is bad or should not be used - I am just
* maybe a different syntax should be used to write the graphs
* maybe different outputs of the final graphs than the (ugly in my
opionion) images/graphic should be used
Please have a first look to the gallery page with
plenty of examples
and dot source codes and the manual .
Actually, I looked at the gallery, and these graphs do not appeal to me
nor do I think the examples of the dot source code is self-explanatory,
or fully intuitiv (sp?) to understand.
Please consider also to
google for "graph drawing" - this is not only one but _the_ generic
term for visualisation of dependencies and graphs.
I'll do that, one can only learn :)
In the meantime I did look at quite a lot of graphs in manuals, TV,
journals etc and quite a lot of them look completely different from the
typical dot examples. I am sure with many massaging you could use dot to
produce equal output, but from my POV dot looks like a tool from experts
for experts - and most people editing/adding stuff to a wiki don't want
to learn all the nitty-gritty details just to produce a 3-node pretty
I really DO think that it would be a good idea to deploy such an extension
on a testwiki first and let people toy with it - preferable with both
extensions. After a while problems and shortcomings will emerge.
Somehow I think that enabling the graphviz extension without any
forethought or tests will end us up with a lot of (badly done) graphviz
Finally, I think some more discussions from people actually wanting to add
graphs to wikis would be good. I know that I use graphs for some things
like networkplans, flowcharts etc and I have some plans to add features
that make support for these types of graphs more easily.
Hope that explains my POV a bit,
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