On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: Please can you explain more; last time I tried, branched versions of extension generally worked with branched versions of MediaWiki? If this isn't the case then it should be fixed. Code in trunk is under development, that is what defines trunk - it hasn't been tested to the same level as releases. Although I think this is case where everyone will have different opinions, I'm not sure of the current official stance. -- Robert Leverington http://rhl.me.uk/

For what its worth: it has been stated in several places by several people that wmf-deployment is not suitable for end users. It was never intended for use outside the WMF and people depending on it are mistaken. -Chad On Jul 30, 2009 12:54 PM, "Robert Leverington" <robert(a)rhl.me.uk> wrote: On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: complicated that it is s... Please can you explain more; last time I tried, branched versions of extension generally worked with branched versions of MediaWiki? If this isn't the case then it should be fixed. used on Wikipedia as b... Code in trunk is under development, that is what defines trunk - it hasn't been tested to the same level as releases. Although I think this is case where everyone will have different opinions, I'm not sure of the current official stance. -- Robert Leverington http://rhl.me.uk/ _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Brian <Brian.Mingus(a)colorado.edu> wrote: I would also like to note that given how trivial it is to create such a branch it is hardly worth a long argument.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote: You seem confused, perhaps you should re-read the thread. I never asked anyone to do anything except make a branch.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Robert Leverington <robert(a)rhl.me.uk>wrote;wrote: Fair enough. I was moreso referring to the hoity toity attitude that gasps at the fact that someone might file a bug report rather than fixing it themselves, or makes assumptions about who the bug would be assigned to.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Mohamed Magdy <mohamed.m.k(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: Until recently there was only trunk. It had been a long standing but unattained goal that the trunk was the live, relatively stable code being run on the site. This was never actually the case, and the deployed code began to fall farther and farther behind trunk. Many people began to complain that there was no reliable way to be sure they were running the same code as on Wikipedia, which is desirable for a variety of reasons. A deployment branch was created. Brion and others are aware that others are running the deployment branch and they did not object, nor advise us not to. But now the deployment branch has foundation specific hacks. Thus, it is desirable that there be another branch available that is marked read only in svn. There are a few ways to implement this, one being a read only branch of the stable revision that is further branched into the wmf-deployment branch. Another implementation is simply to create two branches. I don't think it's asking that much.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Brion Vibber <brion(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: Thanks for the clarification. I will file bugs for these issues in the future, then.