Hi this is a question but shoulden Wikimedia wikis such as Wikipedia be updated with a user friendly design. Currently vector is coming out of date because now a days you see sites with bruitiful colours not old ones as they were in 2010 when vector came out. We could create another skin to replace vector as we did with monobook or update vector with a new look that has bold colours and goes along with mediawiki code and is also mobile optimised even though we have the mobilefrontend extension some users may not want to install instead hoping the skin is mobile optimised.
There is some work about getting the mobile skin on desktop (T71366 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366), and Blueprint https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Blueprint powers the Living Style Guide. However, no matter how ancient Vector may look, the little updates it has received over the years make me think it isn't that bad for those who use it.
Il 08/09/2015 19:53, Thomas Mulhall ha scritto:
Hi this is a question but shoulden Wikimedia wikis such as Wikipedia be updated with a user friendly design. Currently vector is coming out of date because now a days you see sites with bruitiful colours not old ones as they were in 2010 when vector came out. We could create another skin to replace vector as we did with monobook or update vector with a new look that has bold colours and goes along with mediawiki code and is also mobile optimised even though we have the mobilefrontend extension some users may not want to install instead hoping the skin is mobile optimised. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Whatever happened to Winter? It's not coming, AFAICT...
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM Ricordisamoa ricordisamoa@openmailbox.org wrote:
There is some work about getting the mobile skin on desktop (T71366 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366), and Blueprint https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Blueprint powers the Living Style Guide. However, no matter how ancient Vector may look, the little updates it has received over the years make me think it isn't that bad for those who use it.
Il 08/09/2015 19:53, Thomas Mulhall ha scritto:
Hi this is a question but shoulden Wikimedia wikis such as Wikipedia
be updated with a user friendly design. Currently vector is coming out of date because now a days you see sites with bruitiful colours not old ones as they were in 2010 when vector came out. We could create another skin to replace vector as we did with monobook or update vector with a new look that has bold colours and goes along with mediawiki code and is also mobile optimised even though we have the mobilefrontend extension some users may not want to install instead hoping the skin is mobile optimised.
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Whatever happened to Winter? It's not coming, AFAICT...
Yes. See the "Winter" thread on the design mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2015-July/thread.html
There are three avenues for appearance development * User JS+CSS and gadgets. * Iterate on Vector as Beta features (sadly "Compact personal bar" and "Fixed header" are no longer offered as Beta Features due to bugs). * Prototype and refine new skins.
Regards,
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM Ricordisamoa ricordisamoa@openmailbox.org wrote:
There is some work about getting the mobile skin on desktop (T71366 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366), and Blueprint https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Blueprint powers the Living Style Guide. However, no matter how ancient Vector may look, the little updates it has received over the years make me think it isn't that bad for those who use it.
Il 08/09/2015 19:53, Thomas Mulhall ha scritto:
Hi this is a question but shoulden Wikimedia wikis such as Wikipedia
be updated with a user friendly design. Currently vector is coming out of date because now a days you see sites with bruitiful colours not old ones as they were in 2010 when vector came out. We could create another skin
to
replace vector as we did with monobook or update vector with a new look that has bold colours and goes along with mediawiki code and is also
mobile
optimised even though we have the mobilefrontend extension some users may not want to install instead hoping the skin is mobile optimised.
Le 08/09/2015 19:53, Thomas Mulhall a écrit :
Hi this is a question but shoulden Wikimedia wikis such as Wikipedia be updated with
a user friendly design. Currently vector is coming out of date because now a days you see sites with bruitiful colours not old ones as they were in 2010 when vector came out. We could create another skin to replace vector as we did with monobook or update vector with a new look that has bold colours and goes along with mediawiki code and is also mobile optimised even though we have the mobilefrontend extension some users may not want to install instead hoping the skin is mobile optimised.
Hello,
Others in the thread mentioned ongoing work via MediaWiki skins.
There is another total conversion that more and more folks around me are using: Wikiwand.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/MediaWiki
Comes as Android/IOS apps and extensions for Chrome, Firefox, Safari.
I really like the simple design and all the tiny tricks they came up with. Note each articles at the top shows potential connections, which is a good way to get lost in the encyclopedia :-}
I've been meaning to ask about this on the mailing list, but have people seen http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/ ?
"Imagine you were granted the magic power to change any website in the whole world-wide web the way you like it, to make it better, more functional, more useful, better looking, more pleasing or disrupting to the eye. We've also played that game. And we've chosen Wikipedia."
Certainly worth taking a look at, even though there are things that many (including me) may not agree with.
-- Vivek Ghaisas (polybuildr)
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:41 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+wmf@free.fr wrote:
Le 08/09/2015 19:53, Thomas Mulhall a écrit :
Hi this is a question but shoulden Wikimedia wikis such as Wikipedia be
updated with a user friendly design. Currently vector is coming out of date because now a days you see sites with bruitiful colours not old ones as they were in 2010 when vector came out. We could create another skin to replace vector as we did with monobook or update vector with a new look that has bold colours and goes along with mediawiki code and is also mobile optimised even though we have the mobilefrontend extension some users may not want to install instead hoping the skin is mobile optimised.
Hello,
Others in the thread mentioned ongoing work via MediaWiki skins.
There is another total conversion that more and more folks around me are using: Wikiwand.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/MediaWiki
Comes as Android/IOS apps and extensions for Chrome, Firefox, Safari.
I really like the simple design and all the tiny tricks they came up with. Note each articles at the top shows potential connections, which is a good way to get lost in the encyclopedia :-}
-- Antoine "hashar" Musso
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Yes, a lot of people have already seen it and the bunch of other Unsolicited Wikipedia Redesigns[1]
Wikipedia Redefined also got the "honor" of having what's wrong with it explicitly picked out: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-August/121650.html
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unsolicited_redesigns
~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]
On 2015-09-09 10:19 PM, Vivek Ghaisas wrote:
I've been meaning to ask about this on the mailing list, but have people seen http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/ ?
"Imagine you were granted the magic power to change any website in the whole world-wide web the way you like it, to make it better, more functional, more useful, better looking, more pleasing or disrupting to the eye. We've also played that game. And we've chosen Wikipedia."
Certainly worth taking a look at, even though there are things that many (including me) may not agree with.
-- Vivek Ghaisas (polybuildr)
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