I just tried sending an email to both wikien-l and wikimediauk-l (both addresses in the From: line). I then got a message back saying the message was in the moderation queue because "Message has implicit destination". I'm a moderator on wikien-l, so I looked at the message and it had no subject and no body. Huh?
Sending a message to wikien-l on its own worked fine ...
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Somebody also called me today and mentioned they couldn't send a message to wikimediapl-l and wikipl-l. No idea what was the problem, but if it wasn't the only case, I'm reporting it.
(and although I'm a moderator of both list, I didn't get any error)
On 1/10/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
I just tried sending an email to both wikien-l and wikimediauk-l (both addresses in the From: line). I then got a message back saying the message was in the moderation queue because "Message has implicit destination". I'm a moderator on wikien-l, so I looked at the message and it had no subject and no body. Huh?
Sending a message to wikien-l on its own worked fine ...
- d.
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David Gerard wrote:
I just tried sending an email to both wikien-l and wikimediauk-l (both addresses in the From: line). I then got a message back saying the message was in the moderation queue because "Message has implicit destination". I'm a moderator on wikien-l, so I looked at the message and it had no subject and no body. Huh?
Sending a message to wikien-l on its own worked fine ...
The From: line? How can you send a message to an address in the From: line? :)
Implicit destination generally means that the list has been setup to check whether the mailing list address appears in either the To: or the CC: line, and in this case, it didn't.
But if you think something's wrong then I'll need more info, exact times (UTC), sender/receiver addresses, etc.
On 10/01/07, Mark Bergsma mark@nedworks.org wrote:
The From: line? How can you send a message to an address in the From: line? :) Implicit destination generally means that the list has been setup to check whether the mailing list address appears in either the To: or the CC: line, and in this case, it didn't.
I meant To: line :-) I can send from dgerard@gmail.com to both separately.
But if you think something's wrong then I'll need more info, exact times (UTC), sender/receiver addresses, etc.
From: dgerard@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org, wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org, Subject: test 2, ignore
Sent at 16:01 GMT = UTC
I used the old names for each list because they pop up in Gmail first ... you could of course say "don't do that, then" ;-) But those should still work, shouldn't they?
The message in the wikien-l queue (which I'll leave there for you to look at) has "Received: Wed Jan 10 16:01:29 2007", a blank subject and blank body, and the reject message is "Blind carbon copies or other implicit destinations are not allowed. Try reposting your message by explicitly including the list address in the To: or Cc: fields."
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
I used the old names for each list because they pop up in Gmail first ... you could of course say "don't do that, then" ;-) But those should still work, shouldn't they?
The old addresses should still work, but this cannot be relied on. People should really start using the new addresses now.
Still, I will try to make sure they keep working.
The message in the wikien-l queue (which I'll leave there for you to look at) has "Received: Wed Jan 10 16:01:29 2007", a blank subject and blank body, and the reject message is "Blind carbon copies or other implicit destinations are not allowed. Try reposting your message by explicitly including the list address in the To: or Cc: fields."
Hrm, apparently the header rewriting I implemented yesterday evening seems to somehow cause a problem during the pipe delivery to Mailman, causing an empty message to be delivered to Mailman - which of course it can't do much with.
Very weird. Could be a bug in Exim, I will have to investigate some time. In the mean time I have implemented the header rewriting in another way that does not cause this problem.
Thanks for the report,
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:05:46PM +0000, David Gerard wrote:
From: dgerard@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org, wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org, Subject: test 2, ignore
I don't know if it's just a copying artifact... but look *very* carefully at that To header... the trailing comma may break header parsers...
Cheers, -- jra
On 1/10/07, Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:05:46PM +0000, David Gerard wrote:
From: dgerard@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org, wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org, Subject: test 2, ignore
I don't know if it's just a copying artifact... but look *very* carefully at that To header... the trailing comma may break header parsers...
That's gmail interface automatically adding a comma when typing in addresses. It happens to me too.
Alfio
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