Hi,
Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup at gmail.com> wrote:
One note particularly about this incident, I personally would be happy if Yaron thought the wording is wrong, put the file back with a better wording, like "gerrit part of development of this extension is covered by the WM CoC".
Maybe I'll do that, now that I know it's an option.
For me personally and after this stuff, I wouldn't touch any code Yaron is developing
outside
of gerrit with one-yard stick but I'm fine with making patches in gerrit
in
his extensions because I know it's covered by CoC.
This looks to me like a violation of the Code of Conduct. I don't want to cause more drama in this discussion, especially since it seems like a sort of consensus has formed and we can all move on, but I do find it disturbing that a member of the Code of Conduct Committee, who is tasked with enforcing the rules, is himself willing to engage in personal attacks.
-Yaron
Do we have a Terms of Service for Gerrit (or any other technical spaces)?
If not, perhaps we should add one? If so, perhaps we should add the code of conduct to the terms of using the service?
Examples: https://www.drupal.org/git-repository-usage-policy https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/detailed-plugin-guidel...
On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 11:35 PM Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com wrote:
Hi,
Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup at gmail.com> wrote:
One note particularly about this incident, I personally would be happy if Yaron thought the wording is wrong, put the file back with a better wording, like "gerrit part of development of this extension is covered by the WM CoC".
Maybe I'll do that, now that I know it's an option.
For me personally and after this stuff, I wouldn't touch any code Yaron is developing
outside
of gerrit with one-yard stick but I'm fine with making patches in gerrit
in
his extensions because I know it's covered by CoC.
This looks to me like a violation of the Code of Conduct. I don't want to cause more drama in this discussion, especially since it seems like a sort of consensus has formed and we can all move on, but I do find it disturbing that a member of the Code of Conduct Committee, who is tasked with enforcing the rules, is himself willing to engage in personal attacks.
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Yaron,
On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:35 PM Yaron Koren yaron@wikiworks.com wrote:
This looks to me like a violation of the Code of Conduct. I don't want to cause more drama in this discussion, especially since it seems like a sort of consensus has formed and we can all move on, but I do find it disturbing that a member of the Code of Conduct Committee, who is tasked with enforcing the rules, is himself willing to engage in personal attacks.
This isn't a personal attack, it's a consequence to your earlier email.
You stated yourself, that one of the reasons you don't think a COC.md file should exist in your repository is because not all interactions are covered by it. While that might be true technically-speaking, it does make a statement to potential contributors about what they might expect in terms of feeling safe and secure with a CoC in place.
For those of us who "bad interaction online" are a norm rather than an edge case, a statement that the CoC is not fully covering a space means we don't go to that space if we can help it.
Saying that one does not intend on touching a space where the maintainer clearly stated the CoC is only partially in effect is not a personal attack -- it's a consequence of what you said. A consequence that is also shared by others who may feel less comfortable speaking up on public threads, but would avoid going into such spaces all the same. Not because of who you are personally, but because of what your statement about how your space is governed means.
Whatever other claims and discussion is going on in this and the other thread, let's not try to make it sound like there's a personal attack going on here.
Moriel
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